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I’ve seen a lot of questions re the cost of verification on @Tensorcash. Let me put it simply: For miners: next to nothing on tuned software. An independent benchmark by @boblabs_eu measured -1.1% to +0.3% GPU time on Qwen3.8-27B, every request mined. For verifiers: one pass per block, for the winning window only. Writing it took 256 steps. That window is always verified in full, so there is no incentive to fake work for the block reward. For selling inference: the point is not to verify every answer, but to leave no reason to fake one. Verify 1 in 100 answers, and faking 1,000 has a 0.004% chance of going unnoticed. It’s not worth it for a provider, with no block reward to gain and a high chance of getting caught by its customers. And no, statistical is not a weakness. Exact checks would reject honest miners on different GPUs. The calibrated one caught every swapped model in testing, down to a 4-bit version. Best tool we have today, and the protocol leaves room for better ones. Full breakdown from @Tensorcash soon. Worth a read before the next question.
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Visionary leaders see things clearly and early, they become obvious in retrospect to everyone. @drwconvexity is right, compute markets market structure is as obvious as it is nascent.
Really enjoyed being back on Odd Lots with @TheStalwart and @tracyalloway. Would indeed have been fun to debate perps with Terry Duffy. We clearly have different views… Following my prediction on last year's recording that in 10 years compute will be bigger than oil, this year I revealed the name we use at DRW for the profit margin between tokens and GPUs: the crunch spread. Oil into fuel: crack spread. Soybeans into meal and oil: crush spread. Nat gas into power: spark spread. As with those markets, futures on both the GPU hours and tokens eventually will let you trade—and hedge—the crunch. Listen to Odd Lots on Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/1te7oS… Listen to Odd Lots on YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PL… Listen to Odd Lots on Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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Agentic tokenized finance needs a verification + settlement layer $TSC is building it at the protocol level. Nobody else has all the pieces on one chain. wrote up why 👇
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Thousands of GPUs running in a trust-less decentralised network, producing verifiable inference. Not a vision, it is happening today @Tensorcash.
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For those paying attention, @100xInsight has been uncovering some pretty interesting details surrounding tensorcash:native lately And when you put them together, an interesting picture starts to emerge. It starts with @enrico_otta, an early TensorCash contributor who I also highlighted in my recent article. @100xInsight discovered that back in 2013, Enrico and @hardmaru (David Ha) were actually listed in the same Goldman Sachs announcement of new Managing Directors. Max Boonen, co-founder of @B2C2Group, was also working at Goldman Sachs during that period. Now fast-forward to today: - David went on to co-found @SakanaAILabs, becoming a prominent figure in AI research - Max built B2C2 into one of the leading institutional crypto market makers - And Enrico is now involved with AskTilly and TensorCash, exploring how verifiable AI inference could become a tradable commodity with financial infrastructure built around it Three people whose careers overlapped at Goldman Sachs, now operating in different but potentially complementary areas of AI, traditional finance and institutional crypto. Whether they know each other personally or maintain professional connections isn't confirmed, but you can probably imagine how valuable those networks could become. And that's not all @100xInsight discovered The official @Tensorcash account recently started following @CumberlandSays, one of the biggest institutional crypto market makers and part of DRW. But here's where it gets even more interesting Nate George (@nathereum), who has co-led Cumberland's venture capital activities, has reportedly started following @Tensorcash as well. Then there's @bronwallet, where @100xInsight spotted tensorcash:native appearing with an actual token balance and price display. Interestingly, Bron Wallet also follows @Tensorcash back on X. Of course, none of this confirms partnerships, investments or institutional involvement. But considering that TensorCash isn't just building verifiable AI inference, but an entire financial infrastructure layer around it, I find these potential connections particularly fascinating. We're talking about AI, institutional liquidity, custody and financial settlement. Different pieces of an ecosystem that could eventually become very important if verified AI compute develops into a globally traded market. Big credit to @100xInsight for putting in the research 🤝 I genuinely think there's a much bigger picture here that most people are still overlooking. Connect the dots...
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so let me get this straight a $20m AI inference blockchain has former Goldman Sachs MD Enrico Ottavian building around it he's connected on LinkedIn to David Ha, founder of NVIDIA-backed Sakana AI ($2.65bn valuation), and Max Boonen, founder of B2C2 ($2tn+ traded) now Nate/nathereum, who lists himself as VC at Cumberland DRW, is following tensorcash:native DRW is a Wall Street trading giant that traded $824bn in ETFs alone back in 2020, with its crypto arm providing liquidity to Goldman Sachs and Nomura all this around a $20m project. probably nothing
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刚才Bron Wallet 里居然搜到 tensorcash:native 而且还显示价格...要知道 TSC 还只在Safetrade上列出..太奇妙了... @bronwallet 是一款专门面向机构、家办和高净值人群的机构级移动钱包。他们今年宣布集成的新项目有 Arc Hbar Stellar Pearl Gonka 这些无一不是具备机构级投资背景的项目。 TSC 作为独立L1,能被 Bron钱包主动且悄悄的集成...结合早上发现官推关注 DRW 旗下的 @CumberlandSays ,无法不让人浮想联翩啊....期待期待。 顺便说下,现在终于有个安安心心存 TSC的地方了... 金豆子必须存在安全的地方,独立管理的IPHONE+Bron Wallet让人放心。
Every Bron account comes with Power Bank. That’s a $5 gas balance, built in, to be topped up as needed. No token to hold purely for the sake of moving money. No failed transfers because the tank has run dry. Just one less thing to think about.
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突然发现 @Tensorcash 新增关注了 @CumberlandSays 查了下这是 @DRWTrading 旗下的加密交易机构,在机构级做市和大宗场外交易领域,属于绝对的第一梯队。 他的分量可以这么描述:高盛和野村进入加密交易时,曾由 Cumberland 提供流动性,贝莱德 IBIT 的年报将 Cumberland 列为比特币交易对手之一。 Hmmm,事情好像变得越来越有趣了。🤔 tensorcash:native
这周的调研结果,主要摸到两个Eo可能很熟的牛人 @SakanaAILabs 的创始人David Ha和 @B2C2Group Max Boonen 前者是2025年《Time》AI百大名人之一,后者是顶级机构级的加密做市商创始人。 简单说 @enrico_otta 虽然在媒体上很低调,但他在传统金融,新型金融科技,加密货币乃至人工智能都应该有不错的人脉。如果 @Tensorcash 能发展起来,EO完全有能力给 $TSC 推开更大的门。
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Inference is becoming a massive and rapidly growing market. As inference costs become a material P&L line item, enterprises will increasingly focus on optimizing cost, performance and value extracted from AI models. But a fundamental question remains: how do you verify you’re actually getting the model you’re paying for? TensorCash solves the verification problem. inferenceFI builds the marketplace for open, verifiable inference. The next frontier isn’t just cheaper inference. It’s trusted, efficient and transparent inference markets.
AI inference could grow from $160B to $350B next year, overtaking databases as the largest market in software. For software companies, that could mean margins closer to 30–50% than the usual 72%.
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As we already can’t distinguish reality with AI created images/video’s we need an application with some form of proof system to verify authenticity Same with humanoids, i want to be certain these aren’t tele-operated and verify action was used by the ai model If base:0x9b5e262cf9bb04869ab40b19af91d2dc85761722 succeeds in what they are trying to do it can become a critical infra piece, hopefully the team will be able to ship
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The Land Beneath the Compute Economy A thought experiment on what $NOCK could become. I hold the token, undisclosed size. Not advice, not an offering, nothing here is being launched or sold. Nockchain wants to become a market for verifiable computation. Miners already produce zero-knowledge proofs instead of hashes, and the endgame turns that mining into open compute markets where customers pay for proofs and AI work. The first half of that endgame is already running. Logos, the first of two planned upgrades, activated at block 114,300 in late July: it added AI matrix multiplication as a second mining lane, so work done for a paying inference customer doubles as a mining attempt. Weeks in, the chain is past block 130,000, roughly one block in three comes from the AI lane, and AI work rate is above 100 PetaMAC/s and climbing. Permissionless market registration follows in the first half of next year. And the protocol's founder, Logan Allen, announced he's going full-time on National Compute, a company building the first of these markets, a decentralized inference service on consumer GPUs. The timing is not random. On October 5, pending regulatory review, CME lists the first compute futures: contracts on H100 and B200 rental costs, priced off Silicon Data's indexes, with the CFTC preparing a public comment round. Computation is becoming a listed commodity with a public price, the way oil and wheat have one. Every commodity market ever built rests on two layers underneath the price: a way to verify what was delivered, and a resource that participation runs on. Nockchain is a bet on the first. The usual question is whether demand shows up. This piece asks a different one: what is $NOCK in that economy, the second layer? Today the answer is thin. $NOCK pays transaction fees and nothing else. Customers in the planned markets would even pay miners off-chain, in whatever currency they like. A token that only buys blockspace stays a ticket, and tickets get sold the moment they're used. But the design contains the seed of something better. When registration opens next year, founding a compute market means locking 4,000,000 $NOCK under the current design. No yield, no slashing, fully recoverable when you close the market. That lock quietly changes what the token is. In an economy of many markets, $NOCK is the license, the land under the factory. You don't spend it to participate. You have to hold it. Follow that thread and a full resource economy falls out. Renting the license. Four million $NOCK is a serious barrier, and it's priced in the very asset that appreciates if the thesis works. So most market founders won't own their lock. They'll rent it. Holders lease $NOCK into a registration lock for a fixed rent; the founder runs the market and keeps the 20% of block rewards that flows to whoever registered it. The lock can't be slashed and comes back on deregistration, so the lender's risk is price, not loss. That's a credit market where the collateral secures nothing and enables everything. Compute demand converts directly into borrowing demand for $NOCK. Where the lendable supply comes from. Miners are the only source of new $NOCK, and selling to cover costs is the default. Nock Silos are the fix: mining operations run by software whose wallet enforces one rule in sealed hardware. Sell what the bills require, lock the rest in timelocked notes anyone can verify on-chain. A silo like that can't dump, not as a promise but as a property of its runtime. Its store isn't dead weight either. It's exactly the idle $NOCK the rental market wants, earning rent from market founders while staying locked. The silo becomes a lender. Holding becomes a business. Everything runs on $NOCK. Pools that gather community capital to fund a lock: shares in $NOCK. Rent from founders to lenders: paid in $NOCK. The founder's reward stream: 20% of coinbase, in $NOCK. No second token anywhere, which is the lesson from Bittensor's subnet casino. Customers still pay for compute in dollars, and they should. The dollars flow over the top while the resource sits locked underneath, the way the world's dollar economy runs on top of land, licenses, and collateral nobody spends. The loop, if it closes: compute demand creates markets, markets need locks, locks are rented from silos, silos earn yield, so miners store instead of selling, float shrinks while security grows, and the appreciating lock pushes the next founder to rent as well. Every step denominates in $NOCK and none of it requires the customer to touch the token. What has to be true. The registration fork has to follow Logos; that's most of a year of engineering. And the AI lane's petaMACs have to start meaning customers: the latest blocks carry zero transactions, and self-submitted matmuls count as mining, so nothing on the dashboard yet distinguishes paid work from make-work. Mining margins have to leave a surplus worth hoarding, which one rented GPU and a week of published numbers can test. And the protocol has to make sure an empty market can't farm block rewards, or pools will chase free yield instead of real work; with the AI lane live, that calibration is being answered in production right now. One clean fix exists: tie any demand bonus to burned fees at a ratio below one, so faking a customer costs more than it returns and real demand becomes visible on-chain at the same time. None of the resource layer exists yet. That's the point of writing it down now, while the registration design is still wet, while the first market's founder is building, and while TradFi is building the price layer of the compute economy in public. $NOCK as a ticket is a bear case with extra steps. $NOCK as the land, the license, and the collateral of a compute economy is a different asset entirely, and the distance between the two is a handful of design decisions that haven't been made yet. Only proofs enter the record. Image: Superstudio, Supersurface (Life: The Encampment), 1972. Life on top; the grid supplies everything from underneath.
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i hope you have a fat bag
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didnt @gainzy222 and @cobie get excited about stuff like this once upon a time during their plumbing careers what i mean by that is the actual self sovereignty ethos what btc has always carried (and will continue to do so) below is a great reply guy response on @nockchain alignment with direct engagement from the @urbit account (curtis yarvin’s OS / self sovereign computer endeavor) the same curtis yarvin that elon consulted when he needed a libertarian voice in the room maybe brainrot memes ansem whatever but this was the stuff that most of us got redpilled on and ofc not mutually exclusive to btc zcash and plethora of other projects that share the same foundation
7) Everybody watching Nock AI compute numbers this week. And missing bigger story. Urbit official account posted this: "$nock is urbit-coded, brother." Not fan account. Official one. Tweet below. For those who don't know. Urbit is building personal server OS for more than decade. Whole thing runs on Nock, minimal instruction set, that is where name comes from. Ten years of devs, lore and one of most stubborn cults in this industry. And in all those years they never had a coin. Now Nockchain zkVM proves same Nock natively. Urbit servers can talk to chain that speaks their language from birth. And Urbit crowd is starting to treat it as their coin. Think what this means. Nock didn't launch chain into empty room. It inherited decade of culture, developers and true believers for free. Day one. AI narrative comes and goes with market. This one only compounds. Question for Urbit people here. You waited ten years for this stack to get economic layer. Is Nockchain the one, or you see it different? I want to hear from old guard, not from us tourists. $Nock nock.
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The forever computer base:0x9b5e262cf9bb04869ab40b19af91d2dc85761722
People are paying attention to reduced instruction set computing (RISC) more these days. Maybe because they are interested in better per-watt performance, or perhaps for purposes of building ZK-provable circuits for general purpose computing. And maybe it's worth it. @Apple Silicon (ARM) is great. Of course, things like @Intel's Panther Lake is breathing new life into x86, proving that efficiency isn't just about reduced instructions sets. So why does Urbit use a reduced instruction set? We are far away from trying to do efficient bare metal CPUs. And we leave the ZK provable computation to @nockchain. We are interested in reduced instruction sets for a rather unique reason: stability. And not just in the 'my computer doesn't crash' sort of way, but with the idea that all of general purpose computing needs a stable foundation upon which it can be built. A foundation upon which we can build a forever computer. Nock is Urbit's RISC. 12 opcodes (~10% as many as RISC-V), narrowed down to the bare minimum ontop of which the whole of general purpose computing can be built. It has changed every so slightly over the years, but using Urbit's practice of 'kelvin versionining' (version numbers count down to 0, and then there are no more changes ever again), it is becoming more and more solid. Curious to learn more about Nock, and a little homesick for Christmastime? Check out our "12 Days of Nockmas" block series, day 0 below: urbit.org/blog/nockmas-2025-…
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5) 14K dollars a day. That is whole emission of Nock at today price. Roughly one million coins, small and fixed, no matter how many miners come. More miners don't print more coin, they split it. So number revenue must beat is known, and halving cuts it again for ~30% in 72 days. Now imagine that number aimed at bill everybody already pays. Prover as a service is 97 million dollar a year business right now. 90 percent of zk rollups outsource proving to handful of centralized providers. Industry projection 10 billion a year by 2030, 87 billion proofs annually. Somebody has to make those proofs. Cheapest producer wins. Cheapest producer is one who gets paid before he sells anything. Same day founder of Nock spends hardening Plonky3 and tags maintainer about PRs upstream. Tweet below. So tell me. Emission 14K a day. Market 97 million a year, going to 10 billion. How much of that market Nock needs to eat its own emission? Do the math in replies. And @tcoratger, when those PRs land, tell us if I am wrong about where this goes. $NOCK nock.
Who would have thought I'd be spending the day hardening Plonky3. May have some PRs for you (or whoever looks at these things!) soon @tcoratger.
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No meme can match base:0x9b5e262cf9bb04869ab40b19af91d2dc85761722's lore 🤌
Am not a conspiracy theorist, but have you noticed the timing? While all of crypto twitter is chanting "Base" a certain project which goes by name of @nockchain just happens to be bridging there. Around the same time, @mert — a long-time privacy advocate and Zcash supporter — meets @curtis_yarvin , mentor to JD Vance, Peter Thiel, and others… and the inventor of the Nock programming language. Then you’ve got @CryptoKaduna openly talking about Mert waiting for ZK proofs to go live. Then there are also some gentlemen named @cobie and @Cryptopathic who have shown their interest in this project. Coincidences are stacking a little too neatly. Really curious to see this show begin. Pics unrelated 👀
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Replying to @Showeezy
Bro you read the tweet and still missed the machine, let me slow it down. Every PoW token has emissions. Bitcoin started at 7,200 BTC per day and STILL emits 450 BTC daily after four halvings — 15 years of non-stop emissions and it went from zero to trillions. Ask Bitcoin holders what was the point lol. The question is never "are there emissions". The question is what sits on the other side of them. NOCK emission is fixed and tiny — about 17-21k dollars a day. That's the entire daily sell side, capped by consensus, and it gets cut in half at every halving, same as Bitcoin — next one months away. Now the other side of the scale. GPU army serves paid AI inference and sells the cheapest ZK proofs on the market. Every job pays a fee to the protocol. The moment those fees cross 17-21k a day and get routed to burn or buyback, emission is mathematically cancelled and the token turns deflationary while usage grows. Team is actively discussing exactly that HL-style mechanism. And dual income makes miners STOP dumping — customer payments cover their power bills, so the NOCK reward becomes profit they can hold instead of forced selling. So the point of holding: you hold the asset that every compute market on the chain locks, pays fees in, and burns — sell side capped and shrinking every halving, demand side compounding with every miner and every app. You're staring at the emissions and ignoring the engine bolted to them. People said "what's the point" about Bitcoin at every halving cycle too
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Replying to @Kimi_Moonshot
@Kimi_Moonshot just changed the world today. We are officially in the autonomous machine economy. But here's the multi-billion dollar question everyone is ignoring: Where do these machines settle their logic? AI agents don't have bank accounts, and they definitely don't want bloated, expensive legacy blockchains. When a 3T-class model is devouring off-chain compute and running massive, days-long workflows, it needs a lightweight, trustless way to verify that work cryptographically. $NOCK is the solution. @Nockchain isn't just another crypto network. It runs on Zero-Knowledge Proof of Work (ZKPoW). Instead of burning electricity on useless math puzzles, Nockchain miners generate actual, useful ZK proofs. It converts raw compute directly into proving capacity. It is the absolute perfect verifiable sandbox for the Kimi K3 era. AI OS models will naturally gravitate to Nockchain to settle their off-chain compute because the network's custom VM is built natively for ZK proofs.
Introducing Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence 🔹 2.8 Trillion Parameters, 1 Million Context, Native Multimodal 🔹 Kimi Delta Attention enables up to 6.3x faster decoding in million-token contexts 🔹 Attention Residuals deliver ~25% higher training efficiency at <2% additional cost 🔹 Built for long-horizon agentic coding and self-evolving workflows Kimi K3 is now live on on Kimi.com, Kimi Work, Kimi Code, and the Kimi API. Open Weights by July 27, 2026. 🔗 API: platform.kimi.ai 🔗 Tech blog: kimi.com/blog/kimi-k3
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The entire global economy is being forced into a brutal paradigm shift. The old model of oversharing data to prove your identity is a massive liability. Zero Knowledge Proofs are the only way out. Instead of handing your passport over to a corporate database just to prove your age or residency, you use pure mathematics. You prove a fact without exposing a single byte of underlying data. The question changes from "who are you" to "is this specific claim mathematically true." No data changes hands. The fraud vector disappears. This is exactly why $NOCK is positioned to absolute market dominance. Producing these cryptographic proofs requires massive, unyielding computational power. You cannot run a global trust network on vulnerable corporate servers. You need a decentralized powerhouse built specifically for this massive load. @Nockchain solves this natively with Zero Knowledge Proof of Work. It transforms raw electricity directly into proofpower. While legacy crypto networks waste energy guessing random numbers, Nockchain miners execute the exact cryptographic math required to secure global identity against AI weaponization. Every time a bank verifies a user, a government enforces age compliance, or a digital wallet blocks a deepfake, they are forced to use zero knowledge infrastructure. $NOCK is the exact asset that settles this computational marketplace. The broader market is completely blind to this reality. They think $NOCK is just another speculative cryptocurrency. In reality, it is the foundational utility layer for the only version of the internet that survives the AI era. You are either accumulating it today, or you are completely mispricing the future of digital trust.
been saying since last spring that privacy is the last 1,000x & PvE in crypto not just in terms of price, but in terms of the impact it will have on product, adoption, and the ideological trajectory of the industry every day more people are waking up to this encrypt the money
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