
Chief Product Officer @goclio Formerly CPO @Mailchimp, CPMO @PodiumHQ I am American Dynamism if by dynamism we mean gas
Salt Lake City, UT
Joined November 2011
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As a product leader I believe in “shitty first drafts” and that it’s incumbent on PMs to have a pitiful but workable understanding of engineering. That’s why I run my own electrical wire, cut too big a hole, and then just put a wall box for three outlets but only use one
I’m SHOCKED that a legal AI without a legal library under it would hallucinate cases. Shocked! There is a far better option on the market.
This has been a refreshing hours long reprieve from the usual “it’s so over. I just got a swarm of 10,000 agents to clean my dog’s dirty butt”
John Foreman retweeted
Republicans are going to have a terrible night, and the simple reason why is that Trump has put up perhaps the worst *performance* this term of any president in a century or more.
Remember that he entered with an actual mandate: the House and Senate, a popular vote victory and a swing-state sweep, and 6-3 Supreme Court. Democrats were afraid enough to vote for mild but real immigration restrictionist legislation in the Laken Riley Act. Everyone wondered how far the "Vibe Shift" would go.
Trump managed to turn that into essentially zero durable wins whatsoever. He personally *hates* the very idea of legislation, the notion that he would have to spend time going back and forth with Congress, learning details and making compromises. So he simply didn't do it! He didn't make a compelling case for abolishing the filibuster. He didn't try communicating clearly to the public in support of popular bills to get to 60 votes. He just decided not to do it at all.
So they passed an unpopular tax cut, some funding for ICE, and a sop to the crypto industry, and that was basically it. Least productive Congress in decades, due to the tastes of one man.
Trump adopted one of the worst macro policies we've ever had: high deficits, high tariffs, and attacks on central bank independence. We managed to pay higher interest rates while still having high trade deficits AND weakening the dollar. Just a total failure.
On immigration, perhaps THE signature issue, Trump essentially min-maxxed effectiveness and backlash. Instead of trying to leverage the political moment for new laws and a self-deportation agenda (that is, walling off the economy to remove the benefit of irregular presence in the US), he opted for a maximally aggressive approach. The administration spent attention, funds, legal manpower on stunts like deporting random people to Salvadoran prisons with essentially no due process. ICE and Border Patrol were encouraged to be aggressive and confrontational, which helped contribute to the shooting deaths of American protestors. It turns out, that's extremely unpopular!
What about the approach of going after employers? The obvious vector? Trump hated that idea! He repeatedly has said he doesn't want to target businesses (especially farms) that use large amounts of illegal labor. This is just an incomprehensible position. Instead of charging a few dozen businessmen and removing the incentive for millions of illegal workers to be here, you arrest people off the street one by one at the cost of thousands of dollars in manpower per each, while their crying wives and kids post TikToks about it.
Upshot on immigration: electoral strength turned into a crippling electoral weakness in exchange for deporting maybe 6% of the illegally present population.
The tariffs were a total shitshow. Embarrassing rollout, no underlying theory of action at all. No targeted focus on key industries. Our country tariffed products we can't grow. We tariffed *inputs* of our own valuable exports. The schemes and amounts changed constantly, sending the stock market reeling and presenting scenes of chaos to the world.
Trump's messaging throughout has been generationally bad. While facing nearly 2:1 unpopularity, he spends his days posting AI slop, saying he'll rename New Mexico or invade allies, among other bizarre remarks. He brags about a ballroom and a pool repainting while gas hits records. At no point has he ever attempted any kind of message discipline.
Then there are the deeply unpopular attacks on rule of law, his "game-recognize-game" pardons for all manner of scammers and criminals, the crypto schemes that he and his family engage in, the evilly conceived and embarrassingly executed legal attacks on Comey, Jerome Powell, and others. With his monthslong stand on NOT releasing the Epstein files, he became maybe the first president ever to stake out a 99-1 issue on the 1% side.
That's not even getting into Iran, DOGE, his candidate recruitment choices, or countless other things. Simply put: Trump has managed to royally screw up virtually every single facet of his presidency. It's been undeniable, voters have noticed, and there's really no escape from it. This is what the GOP base chose in early 2024, and this is the world they're living with now. Where they handed the reins of history to a fat, vain, washed-up old man and let him drive.
X is full of digital gear heads. You know that dude who has every carpentry tool and home brew gadget and a really nice coffee grinder, but he’s the worst hang on earth? They’re all here but we’re talking code instead. Let me know when you’ve carved a nice chair
One of the things I enjoy most about the AI discourse here is how everything is “99.99% of humans don’t understand what I’m doing…agents…loops…harness…” and solving an actual customer problem is never mentioned.
John Foreman retweeted
So proud of our creative and marketing teams on this incredible new brand identity for Clio
I just spoke to your mom in San Francisco. Most people don’t know what’s coming. 6 months from now there’ll be no more Sunny D. Just “purple stuff.” It’s so over
if another person involved in either coffee roasting or brewing beer tells me about "ruthlessly eliminating hurry" I'm gonna fucking snap
your ad revenue is my opportunity
As Amazon blocks AI agents from shopping on its site, Walmart is taking the opposite approach, introducing new technology that lets AI agents make purchases on customers' behalf, with controls over spending and transaction approvals.
spr.ly/6019BHXyoW
John Foreman retweeted
We built a $150M ARR business twice.
The first time took 8 years. The second took 2.5.
Today, Podium crossed $150M in AI annual recurring revenue.
Three years ago, we already had a great software business. Well over $100M in revenue, tens of thousands of customers, and a product we'd spent nearly a decade building.
And we decided to start over.
The business was performing well. But we believed AI was going to fundamentally change the software industry and make much of traditional software obsolete.
As a founder, you pour your life into what you're building. An insane amount of time, sacrifice, and effort. The hard part is not getting too attached to it.
When we started building our first AI agents, we had to confront the possibility that much of what we'd built might not be that valuable in the future. That's a tough pill to swallow.
But we also realized those same 10 years had put us in a unique position to take advantage of what AI could do for our customers.
Instead of protecting what we'd spent a decade building, we decided to bet the future of the company on AI employees that actually do the work for our customers.
We massively underestimated what we'd signed up for.
We ended up building entirely new operating systems for the industries we serve, from the AI agents all the way down to the systems of record. Now customers run their entire businesses on Podium.
Reinventing our product wasn't even the hardest part. We had to reinvent how the entire company operated.
When you've been running a company for over a decade, the operational inertia is incredibly powerful. We had to rethink how we build products, how we sell, how we serve customers, and how we run the business.
We effectively started a second startup inside an already successful company. And we're still at the very beginning.
Today, we have 20,000 AI agents working for our customers. They've helped generate more than $13 billion in revenue for those businesses. And we're barely scratching the surface of what AI will be able to do for them.
And we've done all of this while becoming profitable and generating free cash flow. We're building Podium to be around for decades.
Huge credit to our team for having the guts to make this bet and the ability to actually pull it off. We still have a long way to go and tons of problems to solve, but it's so damn fun to be winning when the opportunity ahead is this big.
In the age of AI, you can either disrupt your own company or wait for somebody else to do it.
I'd rather do it ourselves.
John Foreman retweeted
Podium is that example people ask for of a pre-AI SaaS company that successfully rebuilt itself as AI-native.
And how much is it burning to do that? Oh it’s FCF positive too.
We built a $150M ARR business twice.
The first time took 8 years. The second took 2.5.
Today, Podium crossed $150M in AI annual recurring revenue.
Three years ago, we already had a great software business. Well over $100M in revenue, tens of thousands of customers, and a product we'd spent nearly a decade building.
And we decided to start over.
The business was performing well. But we believed AI was going to fundamentally change the software industry and make much of traditional software obsolete.
As a founder, you pour your life into what you're building. An insane amount of time, sacrifice, and effort. The hard part is not getting too attached to it.
When we started building our first AI agents, we had to confront the possibility that much of what we'd built might not be that valuable in the future. That's a tough pill to swallow.
But we also realized those same 10 years had put us in a unique position to take advantage of what AI could do for our customers.
Instead of protecting what we'd spent a decade building, we decided to bet the future of the company on AI employees that actually do the work for our customers.
We massively underestimated what we'd signed up for.
We ended up building entirely new operating systems for the industries we serve, from the AI agents all the way down to the systems of record. Now customers run their entire businesses on Podium.
Reinventing our product wasn't even the hardest part. We had to reinvent how the entire company operated.
When you've been running a company for over a decade, the operational inertia is incredibly powerful. We had to rethink how we build products, how we sell, how we serve customers, and how we run the business.
We effectively started a second startup inside an already successful company. And we're still at the very beginning.
Today, we have 20,000 AI agents working for our customers. They've helped generate more than $13 billion in revenue for those businesses. And we're barely scratching the surface of what AI will be able to do for them.
And we've done all of this while becoming profitable and generating free cash flow. We're building Podium to be around for decades.
Huge credit to our team for having the guts to make this bet and the ability to actually pull it off. We still have a long way to go and tons of problems to solve, but it's so damn fun to be winning when the opportunity ahead is this big.
In the age of AI, you can either disrupt your own company or wait for somebody else to do it.
I'd rather do it ourselves.
This is why at @goclio we've brought in @BridgetMaryMc and the rest of the team to work on Clio for the judiciary. The judiciary needs a blood brain barrier that's gonna work when slop is gumming the works.
You Can See Everything was much better than The Odyssey. I felt I could go take a leak any time during The Odyssey. I didn’t dare miss a moment of You Can See Everything
Anyone who's ever eaten Crumbl could see this coming a mile away. The serving size is "eat once in your life and be disappointed." This entire business is soooo Utah. Sugar+sales reps selling your boomer parents on opening a franchise based on optimism if not downright deception.






















