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📜 Working since 2016 to criminalise lying in UK politics ⚖️MPs and Peers have left themselves out of the Hillsborough Law! ✍️ Sign our petition to add them in

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Joined November 2014
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Should it be a crime for politicians to deliberately mislead the public? Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Have you heard about the new law against misleading the public? It doesn't cover MPs. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Up to two years in prison for public officials who mislead the public. Unless they're MPs or peers. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Marcus J Ball (Private Prosecutor and Producer) retweeted
Replying to @RestoreBritain
@RestoreBritain Please sign - This one is. important
A new criminal law will make it illegal for the Prime Minister to lie to the public. Guess who it won't apply to. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Replying to @MarcusJBall
Not surprised, they with the most power should face the most accountability…
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Should MPs have the right to lie to the people? Let's bring back the idea of valuing the truth. Sign the petition:
A new criminal law will make it illegal for the Prime Minister to lie to the public. Guess who it won't apply to. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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A new criminal law will make it illegal for the Prime Minister to lie to the public. Guess who it won't apply to. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Do you want it to be a crime for an MP to deliberately mislead you? Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref… Two years in prison if the state lies to you. Great. But the lawmakers have left themselves out.
Two years in prison if the state lies to you. Great. But the lawmakers have left themselves out. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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The Hillsborough Law does not apply to the lawmakers themselves. (MPs, Peers, MSs etc are giving themselves an exemption). Help me change this: execprosec.org/petition/
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MPs, peers and devolved legislators acting purely as such are excluded from the duty of candour (cl 2), its offence (cl 5) and the misleading-the-public offence (cl 12). Schedule 2 para 2(4) excludes the legislatures as public authorities; para 3 does not bring members in solely by membership. Ministers are covered only in ministerial roles. Schedule 4 misconduct offences are separate. The proposed amendments answer the main objections: they protect all UK parliamentary proceedings, opinions, mistakes and ordinary debate; limit liability to five specified high-harm purposes; and allow only fines for serving legislators. Privilege does not require excluding serious public dishonesty outside proceedings. Lack of executive power does not prevent harm from deliberate lies. Elections and internal rules are weaker for peers and serious cases. The exclusion is therefore not fully justified by the Bill’s own safeguards. Applying the standards to others while carving out legislative roles creates a clear double standard.
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Hi again Charlotte, Quoting you: "MPs are NOT excluded from the duty of candour." "MPs are NOT exempt". I'm so sorry and I know this must be painful because it is a betrayal of sorts...but yes they are completely exempt. MPs (and peers, ALL LEGISLATORS) are trying to give themselves a cut out from the Hillsborough Law. You mention chatpt so I would ask you to copy and past THIS PROMPT INTO YOUR AI so you can see for yourself (I ask @grok to give us its own response to the below prompt as well): Read the official Public Office (Accountability) Bill PDF: bills.parliament.uk/publicat… and ExecProsec’s amendments and briefing: execprosec.org/amendments-br…. Establish whether MPs, peers, MSPs, Members of Senedd Cymru and Northern Ireland Assembly members, acting as legislators, fall within the duty of candour and assistance, its criminal enforcement, and the misleading the public offence. Trace clauses 2, 5 and 12 through Schedule 2, paragraphs 2(4) and 3; distinguish ministerial roles and Schedule 4’s separate misconduct offences, and address the briefing’s possible drafting ambiguity concerning peers. Then critically assess whether the Government’s reasons for excluding legislators withstand the proposed amendments. Test each objection against the actual wording: protection for proceedings in every UK legislature; safeguards for opinions, mistakes and ordinary debate; restriction of the new misleading offence liability to five specified purposes; prosecution controls; and fines without imprisonment for serving legislators convicted solely through their legislative status. Explain why protecting parliamentary proceedings would require excluding serious public dishonesty outside them, if it would. Test whether lacking executive powers or ministerial information prevents legislators from causing harm through deliberate fabrication, and whether elections or internal discipline provide equivalent accountability, particularly for unelected peers. Distinguish safeguards already in the Bill from proposed changes. Verify the briefing’s legal claims rather than accepting either side’s assertions. Conclude whether the exclusion remains credibly justified, and whether lawmakers imposing these standards on others while excluding their own legislative roles constitutes a defensible distinction or a hypocritical double standard. If an objection is answered by the safeguards, say so explicitly.
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Marcus J Ball (Private Prosecutor and Producer) retweeted
Please share this ⬇️ ‘If you still doubt what I'm saying then please see the attached video of me questioning Pete Weatherby KC at a Garden Court Chambers event. He admits on camera that MPs (all legislators) are not included but Ministers are. Even his lawyer colleague didn't know that and apologised for getting it wrong so it's clear most people have no idea.’
Hi again, Charlotte. I'm copying in @HillsboroughSu1 AND @LawHillsborough and @DebatINQUEST here because your message has revealed to me something very important. You seem to genuinely believe that legislators (MPs etc) are included under the Duty of Candour and I assume the Misleading the Public offence? I'm very sorry (and I'm angry about it which is I'm campaigning) but this isn't right. MPs have a carve out (just as the security services wanted before). You are totally correct, and I completely agree with you, that Parliamentary Privilege (Article 9 Bill of Rights) will never be amended and so the new offences could only apply to acts outside of what is said and done in proceedings in Parliament. For me, that's enough. I think that when legislators are speaking on television, the radio, social media, or at events etc outside their Parliaments, they should be held to account under the Misleading the Public offence. At present, they are not. I also think it's completely insane that, in an inquest or an inquiry, if a member of Parliament is called to give evidence, they will not be required legally to abide by the Duty of Candour (whereas nearly everyone else who works for the public will be). It'll be a humiliation of that event and our Parliaments every time that happens. You can see from my attached image of Schedule 2 that they are exempted. As are members of all Parliaments across the UK. If you don't believe me please just read schedule 2 now and you'll see. Link: bills.parliament.uk/publicat… If you still doubt what I'm saying then please see the attached video of me questioning Pete Weatherby KC at a Garden Court Chambers event. He admits on camera that MPs (all legislators) are not included but Ministers are. Even his lawyer colleague didn't know that and apologised for getting it wrong so it's clear most people have no idea. Perhaps let's have a call? The Hillsborough Bill must become law no matter what but if the law makers themselves aren't included then it'll enormously damage public trust in democracy as it'll be seen as hypocritical. Up for a call to discuss? I think all legislators in the UK need to be included for acts outside their Parliaments.
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Two years in prison if the state lies to you. Great. But the lawmakers have left themselves out. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Hi again, Charlotte. I'm copying in @HillsboroughSu1 AND @LawHillsborough and @DebatINQUEST here because your message has revealed to me something very important. You seem to genuinely believe that legislators (MPs etc) are included under the Duty of Candour and I assume the Misleading the Public offence? I'm very sorry (and I'm angry about it which is I'm campaigning) but this isn't right. MPs have a carve out (just as the security services wanted before). You are totally correct, and I completely agree with you, that Parliamentary Privilege (Article 9 Bill of Rights) will never be amended and so the new offences could only apply to acts outside of what is said and done in proceedings in Parliament. For me, that's enough. I think that when legislators are speaking on television, the radio, social media, or at events etc outside their Parliaments, they should be held to account under the Misleading the Public offence. At present, they are not. I also think it's completely insane that, in an inquest or an inquiry, if a member of Parliament is called to give evidence, they will not be required legally to abide by the Duty of Candour (whereas nearly everyone else who works for the public will be). It'll be a humiliation of that event and our Parliaments every time that happens. You can see from my attached image of Schedule 2 that they are exempted. As are members of all Parliaments across the UK. If you don't believe me please just read schedule 2 now and you'll see. Link: bills.parliament.uk/publicat… If you still doubt what I'm saying then please see the attached video of me questioning Pete Weatherby KC at a Garden Court Chambers event. He admits on camera that MPs (all legislators) are not included but Ministers are. Even his lawyer colleague didn't know that and apologised for getting it wrong so it's clear most people have no idea. Perhaps let's have a call? The Hillsborough Bill must become law no matter what but if the law makers themselves aren't included then it'll enormously damage public trust in democracy as it'll be seen as hypocritical. Up for a call to discuss? I think all legislators in the UK need to be included for acts outside their Parliaments.
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Marcus J Ball (Private Prosecutor and Producer) retweeted
Signed.
Politicians have written themselves out of the Hillsborough Law. No duty of candour for MPs and peers. No offence either. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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Marcus J Ball (Private Prosecutor and Producer) retweeted
Some of you may remember the MP's expenses scandal. It began when MP's passed the Freedom of Information Act. They assumed that Parliament would be above their new law. They were wrong and some of them went to prison and I loved it. Watch the clip then please sign the petition.
The House of Lords is about to pass the Hillsborough Law without including themselves. Peers could mislead the public on TV and break no law. Ask me in the comments how you can help.
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This is Charlotte Hennessy (who has blocked me so I can’t reply). Charlotte has posted this on one of my videos. She is one of the champions of @NowHillsborough and one of the most consistent and outspoken voices on the Hillsborough Law. Which is why it’s even more of a revelation to see that not even her, one of the movement’s biggest names, is aware that legislators are currently not included under the Hillsborough Law. MPs, Peers, MSs, MSPs, and MLA’s will have no Duty of Candour or any requirement to abide by the Misleading the Public Offence. They are all cut out of schedule 2. Our amendment proposes adding them in for all their acts outside of parliamentary proceedings. It sounds like we want the same thing, Charlotte? We’re just disagreeing on if we already have it. Please check the Bill text and you’ll see. Full briefing here: execprosec.org/amendments-br… Also please stop sending me abuse I would appreciate it. Your work and this Bill is historic and vital. I am just trying to improve parts that I’ve noticed don’t work (democratic process etc).
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Politicians have written themselves out of the Hillsborough Law. No duty of candour for MPs and peers. No offence either. Sign the petition: execprosec.org/petition/?ref…
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