God is raising up an army not an audience, that is driven by mature faith.
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- If DISEASE is not from God shouldn't you curse it?
- If a PROBLEM is warfare, should we receive it?
- If we have authority over DEMONS shouldn't we use it?
- If we have not because we ask not, shouldn't we SPEAK to it?
When the Son of Man returns, will He find FAITH?
Imagine getting a call from the Minnesota Vikings in the 4th quarter of last night's game. The smell of desperation alone would keep me from making a deal until 3:59pm today and then I would shake them down for all they've got.
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When bad things happen to you, how do you know if it's a demonic attack or reaping what you sowed? By asking. If you're experiencing judgment, you could be reaping judgment if that's what you sowed.
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One of the most irresponsible things ministries do today is fill people with promise but don't teach them how to wait, how to process, and trust God. It must be balanced. If frustration follows, "You can change the World", you're not ready or mature enough to lead.
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Sometimes you just have to sit and wait when you know you're made for something greater. But are you up to it? You say you trust God, but can He trust you? This trial is designed to show Him if He can trust you or not. Warning: you'll repeat this test until you pass it.
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I notice that these kinds of "What do you notice" tweets are you pimping out engagement. You don't say what YOU notice because there's isn't anything to notice. You're just manipulating people to boost your engagement profile with the algorithm. Good job user.
𝗧𝗥𝗘𝗡𝗗𝗜𝗡𝗚: Fox Sports analyst Pam Oliver’s postgame interview with Giants rookie star Arvell Reese has gone viral.
What do you notice? 😳
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MORMONS like identity makeovers. They did it Joseph and they do it with Jesus too.
You've heard it before so I'm not going to bemoan the point. Your g'sus is not THE REAL Jesus. Just like the real Joseph Smith is not the LDS Joseph Smith. "MANY will come in my name, but I will say, get away from me. I never knew you." Matt 7:23
The real Joe compared to LDS Joe!
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What bearing does eschatology have on the average believer's life, what's being asked of us, and what we're here for?
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How do you protect yourself against deception if the prophet is above the Bible, the Bible can be set aside as mistranslated, God can change His mind, and your only test is how you feel?
I still have not met a single Mormon who can answer that.
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Are you bored at church because you're hungry for more? Is it hard to sit there week after week? That's not wrong. That's God stirring you. Don't ignore it. Pray it through and take that stirring vertical. God promotes. Not men.
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**An Open Letter to Anyone Considering Mormonism**
If you are considering joining the Mormon Church, I am not asking you to take my word for it. I am asking you to do what God told you to do: test it.
*“Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves.”* — 2 Corinthians 13:5
*“Test everything; hold fast what is good.”* — 1 Thessalonians 5:21
*“Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God.”* — 1 John 4:1
God commands testing. But testing is only possible if you have something fixed to test *against*.
That is what the Bible is. The Bereans in Acts 17:11 did not just feel good about what Paul said. They “examined the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.” The Word was the guardrail. It gave ordinary believers a standard outside of the man speaking, so no man could corrupt the faith and call it revelation.
I believe in continuing revelation — for personal prophecy, for personal guidance. I do not believe it can become new doctrine that overrides truth God has already given. The moment revelation is allowed to override the Word, you have no guardrail left. And without a guardrail, you get cults.
In true Christianity, revelation is tested by the Word. It is never primary unless it agrees with the Word, because if it does not agree, you have no protection from false teaching.
That is the first thing you must give up to follow Mormonism: the Bible as your final test.
In Mormonism, that order is turned on its head. The living prophet and continuing revelation come first. The Bible comes second — and only “as far as it is translated correctly.”
That disclaimer is not a footnote. It is the whole system. Once the Bible can be dismissed as mistranslated whenever it disagrees with the prophet, it can no longer test the prophet. A prophetic word cannot be tested. Truth cannot be confirmed. You have no standard left.
And the attack goes further than a translation error. To destroy the credibility of the Bible means to claim it never said those things in the first place.
When the Bible contradicts Mormon doctrine, the answer is not to argue the meaning of the text. The answer is to claim the text itself was corrupted, lost, or changed — that what you are reading is not what God originally said. No manuscript is produced. No original is shown. No corrupter is named. Just the claim, and then: “Trust us” — with a wink.
But the excuse doesn’t work.
First, make them name it. How do they know this? Where did they learn that, and how did they confirm its authenticity? Which verse was changed? When was it changed? Who changed it? What did the original say? They can’t tell you. They know *some old Jew* did it, but they can’t name him, date him, or show you what he changed. That’s not evidence. That’s an assertion — and the person making the claim has to prove it.
Second, history makes total corruption impossible. We have over 5,800 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament alone, plus 10,000+ in Latin and thousands more in other languages — copied in different countries, by different groups, including groups that hated each other. For the Bible to be corrupted the way they need it to be, all of those independent copies, across continents and centuries, would have had to be changed in the exact same way, with no trace left behind.
The Dead Sea Scrolls prove it for the Old Testament. The Great Isaiah Scroll was copied around 125 BC, about 1,000 years before our oldest complete Hebrew Bible — and it’s about 95% identical, with the differences being spelling and word order, not doctrine. We have the receipts, and they don’t show a rewrite.
Third, it kills their own book first. If God couldn’t preserve the Bible through human copyists, why should you trust Him to preserve the Book of Mormon? The Book of Mormon has zero surviving manuscripts, no plates to examine, and it was translated from a single source that disappeared. It has also gone through thousands of changes since the 1830 edition.
And worse — the Book of Mormon quotes long passages of Isaiah and other Old Testament books directly from the King James Version, including the KJV translators’ own added words and KJV translation errors. If the KJV is corrupted, the Book of Mormon copied the corruption word-for-word.
They need the Bible to be reliable enough to quote it as proof, but unreliable enough to dismiss it when it contradicts them. They can’t have both.
If the Bible never said it in the first place, then you can never prove it did. You can never check the prophet against the Word, because the Word has already been disqualified before the test begins. That is not an honest disagreement over translation. That is destroying the witness so the prophet can never be cross-examined.
And they say it even more plainly: “When the Prophet speaks, all the thinking is done.”
How convenient. Another untestable standard.
Why this? So you can’t question. But God said you *must* test prophets:
*“Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.”* — 1 Corinthians 14:29
You are commanded to weigh it. Mormonism commands you not to.
That’s why revelation comes first in Mormonism — so you can explain away that command, and the others, by destroying the credibility of the Bible, by implying the translations were corrupted by some old Jew.
When asked to reveal him? They can’t tell you. But they know he did.
And that lack of protection is itself evidence of a false doctrine. God would not command you to test your faith and then give you a faith that cannot be tested.
The second thing you must give up is the unchanging God.
*“I the LORD do not change.”* — Malachi 3:6
*“With whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.”* — James 1:17
If today’s revelation can say the complete opposite of what God said 40 years ago, then God is no longer unchanging. He becomes a god who cannot remember what He said, changing His mind constantly. Today’s truth can be tomorrow’s error, and tomorrow’s prophet can overturn today’s prophet. Nothing is ever settled. Nothing can ever be trusted as final.
That is the slippery slope of continuing revelation as doctrine. Once you accept that a new word can cancel an old word, you have accepted that no word is safe — including the one you are being asked to believe right now.
The third thing you must give up is any way to protect yourself from deception.
In place of the Berean test, you are left with only one test: a feeling. Pray about it, and if you feel good, it must be true.
But feelings can deceive. And God warned you about exactly that:
*“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”* — Jeremiah 17:9
It’s not just a little wicked. It’s *desperately* wicked. That is a clear warning: beware of following your heart.
Mormonism asks you to do the very thing God warned you not to do — to make your desperately wicked heart the final judge of truth. A feeling cannot be examined, cannot be checked against Scripture, and cannot be shared as proof. And the heart that produces it is the one thing God said you cannot trust to know itself.
So ask the question I have asked for 25 years, after leading a ministry outreache to Mormons:
How do you protect yourself against deception if the prophet is above the Bible, the Bible can be set aside as mistranslated, God can change His mind, and your only test is how you feel?
I still have not met a single Mormon who can answer that.
The only answer left is, “Trust us. Trust the prophet.”
That is not testing. That is surrendering the very test God gave you.
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This reply is for others reading through this thread.
My view of a hard heart is seen in this exchange. Notice how he attacks defensively. A hard heart cannot receive or process information objectively or treat people with respect. The conscience of a person like this is seared (1 Tim 4:2) and reflects bitterness, anger, resentment, judgement, and deep self loathing because they themselves cannot measure up to what their religion requires. So they take it out on others bowing a knee to the enemy, losing self control to the idol of feeling-good-about-yourself. In Mormonism, if they can convince themselves and others that you're worse than they are, they don't feel guilty or responsible for judging or hating you - and will treat as such as this Mormon does. But true Christianity offers no such escape as we know, because Jesus said, to love your enemy. So always be ready for the enemy to show himself in others who do not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It's not them who speaks against you but the enemy who controls them.
C'mon! 👇
King David didn't even have a Macarthur study bible. He didn't even have John Calvin to illuminate his way, or entire libraries of academic and scholarly works available at a press of a button. He did not have the "creeds" or the "church fathers". He didn't go to a church and have a sainted pastor deliver a "meaty" sermon every week (those quotes are doing a lot of work).
Yet HE was a man after GOD's own heart. And the people who DO have all those things have on the other hand created the most innefectual ekklesia in the history of this nation.
Maybe we have conceptually completely missed the boat in our understanding of christian maturity.
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There is a vast difference between condemnation rooted in shame and conviction rooted in Christ.
Condemnation says, “You lied, you ARE a liar!” Condemnation always connects your identity to your failure.
But when you lie conviction says, “You are a royal son, and you are behaving below your nature. Stop it !”
Holy Moly! 20 year old ministry intern needs 6 month sabbatical after serving for 3 months.
This is the result of continuously pouring purpose into people without proper perspective. Yikes!
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You CAN be a Christian and do Halloween. Yes you can. In everything you do, do it for the glory of God. 1 Cor
10:31. Ask me how you can do this.
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