is it just me but I mainly see only english speaking fans angry about Sonic memories and beyond? I'm personally pretty mixed on it, and i think it's kinda a step back in terms of writing when compared to other 2020s stuff.
But what do Japanese, portuguese, brazilian, mexican ect. think about it? On my X, I've been seeing those from non english speaking countries angry at the 'english speaking fans for being too toxic.'
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"It's...unfortunate it has to come to this Giganto. I hoped we could've been friends. I don't want to squash your dreams...because I have them too! Let's hope for a greater tomorrow...a final frontier--"
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You niggas are one more "sonic fans complain about everything" away from getting this
I don't mess with the archie comcis that much, but I really like Eggman in it. Besides Sonic Adventure 2 and some parts in IDW comics...Eggman hasn't really felt like that truly terrifying villain he's supposed to be.
I genuinely don't think people appreciate just how FUCKED UP Archie Eggman was compared to his Game counterpart
Game Eggman wants to defeat Sonic. Archie Eggman wants to make that nigga REGRET ever opposing him
And there's a HUGE difference
This man destroyed Sonic's home, captured his loved ones, weaponized his personal failures against him, and deliberately left him alive just to live with the humiliation of losing. And when that STILL wasn't enough, he eventually turned Sally into a weapon against him.
What makes their rivalry so fascinating is that Sonic's greatest strength, his refusal to give up no matter how hopeless things get, is precisely what drives Eggman INSANE. Sonic doesn't just threaten his empire. His very existence is an insult to Eggman's belief that he's superior to everyone else
And the funniest part? This is STILL the same theatrical, egotistical, goofy bastard we know from the games. Except Archie actually explores how fucking TERRIFYING someone with that much intelligence, power and an ego that fragile could become
Archie Eggman wasn't just fighting Sonic. Oh noooooo. He was trying to destroy everything that made Sonic who he was
THAT'S how you write a personal rivalry
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PrimeF retweeted
New short was fun, but I'm not a fan of the sappy wappy, overly "sensitive" interpretation of Sonic. I'm a bigger fan of when his restraint allows you to read his intense emotion in a single shot instead of having it beaten over your head with a Steven Universe speech.
After watching memories and beyond I’ve come to realise that despite me being a 2000s sonic fan, If you’re familiar with my stuff, I might not seem exactly like the ones that are 100% purists.
That’s because while I reject the 2010s, I do not reject the 2020s era of sonic. And that’s because I really feel like 2020s era is legitimately trying to restore what made sonic good, even if it’s done in baby steps. That’s why I appreciate games like frontiers because it does have that slight 2000s feel even if it’s not the same, and is the most recent game to feel like so since black knight. And in someways some of the elements that frontiers introduces should be a staple, even if the 2000s era fully comes back. I also wanna say the same thing for the idw comics, which has sliver of 2000s feel.
My problem with many 2000s fans is that many of you guys have given up completely. You’ve completely isolated yourselves into the 2000s era, rather than try see the little return back to form.
I’m someone that still wants Shiro Maekawa to come back, but we fans should realise that if anything, Shiro is perhaps more likely to return in this era of sonic than 10-15 years ago(the 2010s, when story and characterisation was thrown in the bin, which was a major reason for why Maekawa doesn’t work on sonic team anymore).
More of you guys should probably be more hopeful for the franchise, rather than give in to hopelessness and ceaseless scrutinised hate.
I want 2000s vibe of sonic to return and for them to even go way beyond that. Even if memories of beyond is not that good, hopefully authentic writers will have a rekindled interest in the franchise again.
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Uhh...actually now that I just think more on it, memories and beyond is really flawed. The animation is astounding don't get me wrong, but beneath that the writing has a plethora of problems. I'd argue Shadow Generations and Frontiers clear it in terms of writing. That said, still hype as shit. That type of choreography and animation exceeds anything we've received.
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Yooo this person is spitting. I feel like this could've elevated the short much better. It just feels too mouthful and forced. I get what they're going for, i kinda like the idea, but there's alotta parts where it just feels off.
characters in microcosm. And this is what they use to beat Metal Sonic. But where this gets shaky is with Sonic himself. Because while he gets to have everyone talking about how cool and awesome he is and their memories with him; in the actual short, he's kind of underwhelming.
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I agree with this actually yea. There's just some parts of this scene that I felt were done wrongly. It's not the dialogue that's the issue for me(though roger's VA isn't good imo) but some expressions.
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So here's what I ultimately think about the whole Memories and beyond animation.
The animation is pure HYPE. 10/10 visuals and animation, and I'd argue it's the best animated Sonic media/sequence we've gotten ever.
I like what they really tried to do here. Stakes felt pretty real, and it Sonic appreciating his friends is a good thing.
But my main issue with this was the voice acting, especially in the ENG DUB. In the Japanese dub it's alot better.
Sonic's feelings isn't actually my issue here. I actually mess with how they internalised Sonic's thoughts. My problem is how the plot revolves around other characters having to 'glaze' him in a way to win.
It just kinda feels artificial.
But yes, that animation was absolute hype and aura. I saw so many anime references. No other animated sequence comes close.
Overall a 7/10. Sonic's internal monologue, animation and visuals mainly carry it.
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PrimeF retweeted
I am not usually the guy who praise the JP VAs because I am not that connected to their peformance personally, but I just needed to praise Jun'ichi's peformance in this. He absolutely delivered on the emotional front for sonic. I hope fans who enjoy the JP VAs enjoyed it too 🙏
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#ソニック35周年 新作短編アニメ🎞️
「Memories and Beyond ～記憶の未来(さき)へ～」
日本語吹替版公開！
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アニメの感想はもちろんのこと、
みなさんとソニックの大切な思い出も、ぜひお聞かせください💎✨
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I knew it. The Japanese version would ELEVATE this short so much. And yes, while I do like the memories and beyond animation, Roger's voice acting imo js holds it back.
Junichi, who has been Sonic's Japanese va since adventure sounds like he's in genuine pain here. At some parts, he voice as Sonic sounds more hoarse and deeper than usual, unable to maintain a consistent tone. At other points, he sounds broken, like he's about to completely break down. Simply phenomenal.
This is the type of voice direction needs.
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Genuinely INSANITY. People will look at this animation and still convince you that the 2020s Modern Sonic franchise doesn't have sauce like he did in the 2000s. Also those people that were so scared of Amy's love to Sonic being removed were proven flat out wrong 😂
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That said, if I had to critique this...I can't lie, it'd probably be Roger's voice acting. He still doesn't do it for me personally, and he makes Sonic sound whiny in a weird way. That said it's not OOC like some people are saying, because Sonic has acted this desperate and sentimental before(sonic battle).
I'm curious how Junichi Kanemaru will handle this.
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