TheDeframer - Rat!

Of course. My critique starts even before that: you have to build the product yourself. Hermes is the toolbox. There is no Hermes with a distinct agent, personality, behaviour, etc. - its all up to you how you want to build it. But sometimes its better if engineers who work 8 hours a day build that agent, and you just use the product instead of tinkering with it after work.

I know exactly what you mean, but for me it feels like Hermes is more of a toolbox than a distinct product. I love to tinker around, but I also love when engineers tinker professionally 8 hours a day on workdays to deliver a fully fleshed-out product with a own vision.

Despite the usage limit and drain. We need: - Minimize to tray. - Autostart in tray.

Why not both? Look at Linux, there are base distros where you have to set up and care for everything yourself, and then there are ones like CachyOS, Pop!_OS, or Ubuntu, which feel more like a product because they ship with defaults and are a bit more opinionated.

This wasnt my critique. I think it can even be better than Grok Bot. My critique is that its more like a toolbox where you create the product yourself, and it doesnt ship with a distinct product (with its own personality, vision, and behaviour) by default.

No, Apple is the extreme example of a closed ecosystem in the other direction. I think the base should be variable, but in the end there should still be a product with a distinct vision. To put it in Linux jargon: something like CachyOS or Pop!_OS.

Nice analogy.

My main critique is that it feels more like a toolbox than a distinct product.

Rust would be great but my way to go would be Flutter - But in the end does it even matter?

Never heard of it, will try...

This. its the toolbox, but sometimes you just want a product and dont want to be the builder/engineer yourself.

Powerful, but never something for the masses...

"You can keep it when switching models" this is my biggest ick with it. I want it to have the same personality. If I change the model, I basically change everything.

Yes, but Grok Bot took the no-settings approach a bit too far. Some settings are fine, but they shouldnt be able to change the entire identity of a product.

Grok Bot has far too few settings, and what they did with the usage limits is ridiculous. I still dont get how its legal to bait people with a 4x usage limit and then have it feel like 4x less overnight but thats a separate topic.

Nach HSI sind wir bei 67% Sozialismus:

I am not against settings. I am against settings that let you change the product so drastically that it loses its identity, personality... Take Cortana as an example: I am super fine with settings for it, but anything that turns it into something that isnt Cortana anymore is counterproductive. My critique starts even before that, though. Hermes doesnt even have a fixed identity like Cortana. They have that girl mascot, but since you can change it to be whatever you want, theres no actual product. Hermes is the toolbox, and you have to create the product yourself.

Ive been a programmer for about 20 years (Dart, Node, PHP). My critique is that Hermes feels more like an IDE than a product. Its like buying a TV and the company gives you a toolbox to build your own perfect TV. But sometimes you just want a TV where the engineers have already done the hard work of figuring out the best components and settings.

Yeah, I was out even one step before that...

I know. Its more that I expected an opinionated product, yet I can even swap the model. I dont get why they even have that girl as a mascot if you can change it to be whatever you want anyway.