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61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
.@pdhsu is co-founder and core investigator of @arcinstitute, assistant professor of pathology at Stanford, and venture partner at @thrivecapital.
My favorite ideas from my conversation with Patrick on @dialecticpod.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
Most sales advice is about what to say. @jgebbia’s best move, while selling CritBuns, was asking one question:
"How do you see this product fitting into your life?"
Then he’d shut up and listen.
"This would be great on the bleachers for my kid's soccer game."
"I go camping all the time; I’d love to take this with me."
"This would be great for my pregnant wife."
"My uncle has sciatica; this would take pressure off the tailbone."
Joe quickly realized that people were selling his product to themselves. "They convinced themselves why they needed this cushion."
Watch Joe break down his five-step sales process.
Most sales advice is about what to say. @jgebbia’s best move, while selling CritBuns, was asking one question:
"How do you see this product fitting into your life?"
Then he’d shut up and listen.
"This would be great on the bleachers for my kid's soccer game."
"I go camping all the time; I’d love to take this with me."
"This would be great for my pregnant wife."
"My uncle has sciatica; this would take pressure off the tailbone."
Joe quickly realized that people were selling his product to themselves. "They convinced themselves why they needed this cushion."
Watch Joe break down his five-step sales process.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
16 Lessons from @arcinstitute's Patrick Hsu (@pdhsu) on Outworking the Smart Kids, Balancing Humility & Arrogance, and Pushing the Frontier of Biotech:
1. “Genius” disguises hard work.
2. At the frontier, nobody outranks you.
3. Most of the map is still blank.
4. Research is 99% failure, including your best ideas.
5. Doubt every idea. Never doubt yourself.
6. Having fun is how you last.
7. Taste is an appreciating asset in science.
8. Simplify until you see the path forward.
9. When the product feels magical, the money follows.
10. Possibility is contagious.
11. Every company has genetics.
12. Don’t underestimate the gym bros.
13. Obsolescence is the default.
14. Don’t peer-review your relationships.
15. A fast life needs good brakes.
16. Pick a game you can’t finish.
.@pdhsu is co-founder and core investigator of @arcinstitute, assistant professor of pathology at Stanford, and venture partner at @thrivecapital.
My favorite ideas from my conversation with Patrick on @dialecticpod.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
If you don’t know what to do with your life, you’re not alone.
For most of recorded history, the answer was “farm,” meaning the question of "what should I do?" is an incredibly modern one.
That’s why @a_m_mastroianni wants to write a book that answers it:
“A lot of what exists is like, 'Here’s how to have a creative career. Here’s some general life advice. Here’s some inspiration.' But the question on everyone’s mind is, what do I do? Where do I go?”
“We just don’t have that much depth to draw from, so the bar is really low for doing better.”
58: Adam Mastroianni - Let Me Be Useful
Transcript & links: dialectic.fm/adam-mastroiann…
Spotify: open.spotify.com/episode/74L…
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=pHhn1fHy…
If you don’t know what to do with your life, you’re not alone.
For most of recorded history, the answer was “farm,” meaning the question of "what should I do?" is an incredibly modern one.
That’s why @a_m_mastroianni wants to write a book that answers it:
“A lot of what exists is like, 'Here’s how to have a creative career. Here’s some general life advice. Here’s some inspiration.' But the question on everyone’s mind is, what do I do? Where do I go?”
“We just don’t have that much depth to draw from, so the bar is really low for doing better.”
58: Adam Mastroianni - Let Me Be Useful
Transcript & links: dialectic.fm/adam-mastroiann…
Spotify: open.spotify.com/episode/74L…
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=pHhn1fHy…
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
This conversation shows why working with Josh is so lovely. He enables people to be their best selves, pursue big ideas, and be unafraid to think of product as art.
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
@joshm has inspired so much of my thinking on how we can make technology products into friendlier / more personal spaces... Lots of early branch / potluck (and browser co!) spirit in Tolan today :)
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
Still on the fence about @ndstudio? Here’s @jgebbia’s pitch:
- An install base of 340 million users on day one.
- A fix you ship this week shows up on your mom’s phone.
- Your parents, grandparents, siblings, and friends are among the people you’re building for.
"Nobody on our team was thinking about the government at all. It wasn’t on anybody’s career plans whatsoever."
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
“Red giraffe on a screen!”
Fun listen w/ @joshm @jacksondahl. Lot if great ideas on how consumer and enterprise are different + alike in an AI universe…
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
always walk away from a Josh Miller interview with things percolating in my brain
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
One year after the @browsercompany deal closed, I had a two-hour conversation with Jackson about it all…
Dialectic 61: Josh Miller!
@joshm has always been thoughtful about the spaces we spend time in.
The browser is "really a rectangle that we spend eight hours a day in." So "why would we not want to live in a good rectangle?"
Josh sat down with me to reflect on @browsercompany's journey about a year after it was acquired by @Atlassian.
We talked about everything from the original decision to "optimize for feelings" to hiring unlikely stars to where Dia and the browser stand in the AI era.
Above all else, Josh believes in people. I’ve felt that, as have so many others who’ve collaborated with him or simply been around him.
I hope you’re inspired to believe in people too, and to leave your fingerprints on the things you make.
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Opening Highlights
(1:19) - Intro: Josh Miller
(3:14) - Start: Not Commercial Enough & Optimizing for Feelings
(10:33) - Sociology, the Obama White House, Thrive, and the 5% Favicon
(16:57) - Bowling Alone, James Turrell, and Roden Crater
(23:31) - Betting on People, Leaving Thrive, and Where Computing Goes
(36:13) - "Assume You Don't Know" and What Was Sacred at The Browser Company
(43:17) - Intuition, Road Trips, and Leaving Fingerprints on Things
(55:16) - Building in Public, Pulling Back, and the Road to Atlassian
(1:04:42) - The Internet Computer in the AI Era: Codex, Cloud Browsers, and Why Everything Is Converging
(1:14:49) - How Dia Wins
(1:18:26) - Agents, Muse, and the Red Giraffe
(1:24:02) - Software Is Becoming Art
(1:33:32) - Believing in People, Leaving Facebook for the White House, and What's Next
(1:48:36) - Closing Questions
@dialecticpod 61: Josh Miller - A Good Rectangle - is out now, below and on all platforms.
Transcript & Links: dialectic.fm/josh-milller
Spotify: open.spotify.com/episode/3at…
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
YouTube: youtu.be/npYk9iarhRU?si=CSWd…
Still on the fence about @ndstudio? Here’s @jgebbia’s pitch:
- An install base of 340 million users on day one.
- A fix you ship this week shows up on your mom’s phone.
- Your parents, grandparents, siblings, and friends are among the people you’re building for.
"Nobody on our team was thinking about the government at all. It wasn’t on anybody’s career plans whatsoever."
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
“It’s not the money. It's the appetite for reputational risk.”
Adam Mastroianni on why new science institutions end up looking exactly like the old ones.
58: Adam Mastroianni - Let Me Be Useful
Transcript & links: dialectic.fm/adam-mastroiann…
Spotify: open.spotify.com/episode/74L…
Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=pHhn1fHy…
“I can’t go ham the way I did in my teens.”
@pdhsu on learning to use the brakes:
"I kind of specialize in not burning out."
"You have to know when to go slow a lot of the time."
"Slow is smooth and smooth is fast."
Dialectic with Jackson Dahl retweeted
An antidote to obsolescence: “Personal Renewal” by John W. Gardner.
Listen on Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/2IEN4e…
or Apple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
Read the original Transcript with PBS: pbs.org/johngardner/sections…
