2/3 Growth is cumulative. New infrastructure expands civilisation's capacity to extract resources, transform matter and consume energy. Efficiency changes how resources are used but cannot eliminate dependence on throughput. Expansion reinforces that dependence.
3/3 Civilisation must continually mobilise energy and matter to sustain its complexity, while depletion, pollution and climate disruption undermine its foundations.
The processes sustaining civilisation are creating the conditions for its collapse.
Thermodynamic inertia matters.
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collapse of complex societies is a recurring phenomenon.societies solve problems by adding complexity which require more energy.diminishing returns on complexity In a world of finite resources is the precondition for collapse.
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Trump’s takeover of Greenland is all but certain—a done deal, fulfilling a pledge to the billionaires who bankrolled his campaign. Companies like KoBold Metals and Praxis were established for one purpose: to exploit exactly this opportunity.
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From a deterministic outlook,its always been "very,very late"...The eventual state has never been a matter of probability but of necessity,baked into the original thermodynamic state.
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Complex systems theory distinguishes between linear problems, where feedback loops help stabilise outcomes, and non-linear predicaments, where physical laws lock in trajectories. With that in mind:
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Is climate change a problem or a predicament? A problem is something you can solve with better information,smarter choices,or more adaptive agents.A predicament,by contrast you can only respond to because physical laws set the ultimate trajectory.
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3- These are fundamentally different propositions about how much control we actually have.
But that is just my take so please tell me what I have missed.
2- , and declining EROI lock in a trajectory toward steady state (or tipping point and collapse in Tim's case—which I am in favour of), regardless of how clever the agents become.
Farmer offers hope through computation. You and Tim offer humility through thermodynamics....
1- I see much more similarity between your argument and Tim Garrett's than with Farmer's.
Farmer's agents learn and adapt, implying the future is contingent on smart decisions.Your model and Tim's assume physics constrains outcomes. Resource depletion, conservation laws....
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My HARMONEY model incorporates the 1st & 2nd law of thermo in complexity economics, & conservation of mass (generally). This uses an aggregate sectoral-based approach rather than Doyne Farmer's more granular agent-based approach. Both are needed. careyking.com/new-harmoney-i…
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Steve, while you're in a debunking mood,tackle this gem as well: a complexity model to "accelerate the world down a cheaper path to ending emissions." A noble goal, assuming one has found a way to negotiate an exemption from the laws of thermodynamics😕
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So comforting. "It's in our hands."
Except we are the accumulation. Centuries of growth, built infrastructure,innovations—all physically embedded in today's energy demand.
The inertia is not in our hands. It's in our history.
And inertia is not a choice.
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Collapse is not a single threshold but an ongoing balance between what we build and what erodes us.
When surplus vanishes,adaptation ends. Only maintenance lingers—and eventually that fails too.
The decline creeps,then cascades. Gradual,then sudden.That is the real dynamic.
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At some point we`ll have to realise that civilisation is a dissipative entity that functions as a heat engine. collapse is a mathematical certainty. an `organised collapse` aka `revolution` is our only hope to curtail the rate of decay .













