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PCA pastor in Chicagoland & visiting lecturer of practical theology at RTS Orlando. Author of Knowing the Bible Galatians study & Free to be Sons of God (P&R).

Hinsdale, IL
Joined June 2008
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"The minister who insists he is 'just preaching the text' has not escaped contextualization — he has simply mistaken his own cultural idiom for the timeless form of the gospel itself." Tony Wang has written a fantastic piece about mission for AMR's theological vision.
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A hearty "second!" to all of this. Great words from Ben providing context and perspective on General Assembly.
I rambled about GA: pulpitmatters.com/p/the-pca-… The PCA Is More Than One Week in June: General Ramblings on General Assembly General Assembly week is a combination of so many things. It is worship services, debates, committee meetings, reports, reunions with old friends, before-prayers and after-prayers, late-night conversations, floor speeches, parliamentary confusion, and occasional moments of profound wisdom from godly churchmen. It is exhausting. It is good. And, every year, when it is over, most of us face the temptation to interpret the whole denomination through the lens of those few days. General Assembly is important. Overtures are debated and responded to, reports are received, elections take place that influence the direction of permanent committees and agencies. Much more than just rubber stamping, real work is done accomplished at General Assembly. But we should be careful not to measure the health, faithfulness, or future of the whole church by one week of denominational business, however important that week may be. When GA is over, I want to resist two temptations. The first is the temptation to shrug it off, as if none of it matters. That will not do. Our doctrine, order, discipline, and worship have been handed down to us by Christ and they must be well-maintained according to His Word. Our GA decisions matter because Christ’s church matters. Don’t shrug off the work of the Assembly. The second is the temptation to panic. The whole condition of the PCA cannot be read from a handful of speeches, votes, reports, or procedural decisions. That will not do either. The PCA is not merely what happens on the floor of General Assembly. She is what happens in pulpits, session rooms, hospitals, living rooms, presbytery exams, mission fields, church plants, prayer meetings, and Lord’s Day worship all across the country and around the world. Because of that, our evaluation of the PCA should be serious and honest, but not frantic or cynical, and certainly not naive. One of the hardest things about Presbyterianism is also one of its gifts: it is slow. We must endure more than momentary annual enthusiasm (try listening to Polity Matters regularly to keep this less than momentary). We need to deliberate and discuss together over lunches and drinks and pre-presbytery gatherings and text groups (yikes!) and Zoom calls. We have to stifle our inner desires for popularity and recognition and do long slow plodding work. That slowness can be maddening. But it is the wisdom of the system. Our slowness forces us to keep dealing with one another. It forces us to attempt persuasion instead of just pronouncing things on social media. Indeed, elders are compelled by their ordination vows to be persuadable. Be teachable and flexible in matters that allow it. Of course, slowness can become cowardice. Process can become evasion and passivity. But the answer is not to despise the courts of the church. The answer is to serve them better. That is (part of) why I am committed to the PCA. These are my brothers in Christ. These are Christ’s churches and courts. These are the debates of weak and godly men who must lean up the Savior moment by moment. I do not want to be merely a commentator on the PCA. I want to be a faithful churchman. And the main reason I have hope for the PCA is not that I trust the PCA. It is that I trust the Lord Jesus Christ. Christ is the King and Head of the PCA. He bought her with His blood. He gathers, defends, preserves, and perfects His people. He rules His church by His Word and Spirit. He uses preaching, sacraments, prayer, discipline, shepherding, courts, and the faithfulness of ordinary officers. And because Christ is King, we do not have to panic. The future of the PCA does not rest finally on parliamentary skill, committee strategy, institutional branding, online commentary, or voting margins. Those things may matter in their place. But they are not ultimate. The church is in better hands than ours. So I am committed to the PCA for the long haul. Not because that annual June week is encouraging (but it often is). Not because every debate is clarifying (sometimes they are). Not because every decision is what I would have wanted (I’m at about 80/20 for the 53rd). But because Christ is the King and Head of the PCA. May the Lord have mercy on the Presbyterian Church in America. May He purify us, preserve us, make us faithful, and prosper the work of our hands.
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Leaving this year's GA, I feel tired but encouraged. Before heading out from Louisville, Erik Bonkovsky, @derekradney, and I recorded our post-GA reflections for @a4mrofficial. #pcaga nitter.cf/a4mrofficial/status/20…
The 53rd PCA General Assembly is over. What happened and what does it say about the state of the denomination? Derek Radney, Geoff Ziegler, and Eric Bonkovsky reflect on trust, collaboration, the major decisions, and the work that still lies ahead. a4mr.substack.com/p/after-th… @derekradney @gziegler #pcaga
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Replying to @a4mrofficial
@a4mrofficial will be hosting a GroupMe text group for GA, where experienced GA commissioners will be commenting on various issues facing GA. A number have expressed interest in this, which is wonderful--all are invited! Here's the link: web.groupme.com/join_group/1…
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I should also add if any other groups devoted to denominational health, such as @gospelrefnet are doing anything similar, it would be wonderful to hear that. The more thoughtful resources, the better!
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We’re continuing our series on AMR’s Theological Vision. Sean Lucas examines the PCA’s Presbyterian roots, the importance of faithful participation in our church courts, and the need to resist both centralized power and divisive proceduralism. a4mr.substack.com/p/presbyte…
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What’s the difference between “serving” and “passing” the elements in the Lord’s Supper? In a new AMR article, Chuck Colson Draws on John Knox for a careful consideration of that question. a4mr.substack.com/p/parsing-…
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Derek Radney continues AMR’s Theological Vision series by explaining its commitment to a distinctly Reformed identity grounded in Scripture, the Westminster Standards, and the broader Reformed tradition. @derekradney a4mr.substack.com/p/reformed…
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An interesting aspect of this is that it requires upholding good faith subscription (as the report itself notes). Those holding to 1646 don't take a position that's hostile to the system but are nevertheless in disagreement with the PCA's standard, and must take an exception.
Replying to @DDFStrand
The standard in the PCA is the American revision. The report is very clear in multiple places that they honor the original version and easily consider it to be within the bounds of Christianity and the Reformed tradition. Still, what’s subscribed to in the PCA is the American revision. This is true of literally every elder the PCA has ever ordained.
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"Resorting to the slippery slope can actually lead us into Pharisaism, where we erect a fence around Scripture...to ensure that we don’t transgress Scripture itself." Might the PCA be more focused on resisting progressive drift than it is on this danger?
We’re continuing our deep dive into AMR’s Theological Vision! In Part Five, Charles Anderson explores what it truly means to pursue the value of being biblical. a4mr.substack.com/p/biblical…
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We’re continuing our deep dive into AMR’s Theological Vision! In Part Five, Charles Anderson explores what it truly means to pursue the value of being biblical. a4mr.substack.com/p/biblical…
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Derek Radney, Steve Tipton, David Coffin, and Howie Donahoe return for Part 2 of our PCA overtures roundtable ahead of the 2026 General Assembly, discussing women as deacons, the Danvers Statement, the Lord’s Supper, and more. youtube.com/watch?v=JpsstSfx…
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Derek Radney speaks with members of the Ad Interim Committee about the PCA’s proposed Directory for Worship. tinyurl.com/3aj5x6nn @derekradney @joel_stclair @nateshurden
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This post raises an important question: are denominational structures primarily a pragmatically-driven platform for mission? Or should structured connectionalism be seen as part of our obedience to the calling to "maintain the unity of the Spirit?"
If the PCA had an amicable division and both sides planted 2x as many churches and reached 2x folks… would it be worth it?
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If (as I would hold) it's the latter, this question feels a bit like asking, "Is it 'worth it' for the brothers of Joseph to sell him into slavery if it ensures that God's people are saved?" God's ability to use something for good does not remove the sin of a sinful event.
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Sam complicates this a bit by speaking of "amicable division," which would need further definition. Forming, e.g., a separate "Presbyterian Church of Canada" for local governance seems very different from dividing due to perceived "irreconcilable differences."
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I really appreciate this piece from @HowieDonahoe exhorting us to pursue a culture of greater trust. Anyone who knows Howie knows that he embodies what he describes. We will be a healthier and holier denomination if we can take these words to heart.
Howie Donahoe reflects on AMR’s call to pursue “a communion of trust,” showing how charity, humility, and honest friendship can strengthen the church’s life together. a4mr.substack.com/p/trustthe…
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The proposed DFW has great potential to move our denomination toward peace by defining a shared vision of worship. It also could establish a new battleground, spawning countless future overtures. How do we avoid the latter?
Replying to @CAHutch1990
2) If it is passed, what about a 5 year moratorium on amendments to give it time to settle out, and see if it brings a greater peace and uniformity we seek? An agreed upon 5 year cease fire in the worship wars, so we can all focus on growth and missions? HT: @tom_mirabella
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I don't know of an easy way to impose an actual moratorium, but I very much agree with Chris's point. If we approve the DFW, is there a way that we who support it can make a gentlemen's agreement to wait some time before we try to change it?
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