James Luther retweeted
Replying to @jwlpc
The motorsports industry suffers from a lack of turnstiles. Nobody ever knows - from the dirt bullring to the Cup Series. Take it from one who used to be a member of the “North Carolina Highway Patrol” or wherever we were racing
You have first knowledge of what nascar was 40 years ago?
How many races were you at in the 80s and 90s to know what the popularity of the sport was?
I’m guessing you’re nowhere close to 40.
There were over 75,000 in my Dover pic. You think more are there today? 🤣
Replying to @jwlpc
Yes i would argue that races today are still sold out, business models have changed. The sport is just as big today as it was in 80s/early 90s. Not mid90-mid2000s peak. Many of the races that were sold out in your photos, crowds aren’t as big as they are in 2026
James Luther retweeted
Replying to @jwlpc
Most of the drivers back then were. I doubt any of them today could honestly work on their cars, if they needed to.
I wonder if they don’t release crowd sizes anymore because the numbers are awful.
You said you’d argue the sport is more popular now than the 1980s and 1990s, please enlighten me.
Did you attend races then?
I’ll say you didn’t since you said my 1990 pics were 1996.
That’s interesting you don’t have numbers.
Why is that?
Replying to @jwlpc
I don’t have figures, but you’re arguing this year Bristol’s night race was less than 60% full? I don’t think so. I would bet there were around 100k people ate Bristol this summer
James Luther retweeted
Replying to @AlanCavanna
That’s like asking if baseball fans were pissed the Brewers won the Series in 5 games. Only simpletons would feel cheated it didn’t go 7 and come down to the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes
James Luther retweeted
Replying to @AlanCavanna
Been here since ‘82, never had a problem until they started acting like they needed to be a stick and ball sport.
Replying to @jwlpc
TV money is the only thing that matters, sellouts and ticket sales don't. Like I said, take away the TV contract and what is left. The value of charters goes to 0. Why, because fan support, merch sales, and sponsorships aren't what they were. Nascar would be in big trouble.
You have a secret line to nascar attendance?
Well don’t keep that info to yourself let’s see it…from the track, a newspaper print or online or a local broadcast television report, your X account doesn’t count.
Replying to @jwlpc
How much would you like to wager there were more than 58k people at the 2026 Bristol night race?
You complained about the same six pictures.
From 1990 not 1996.
Ah yes the times change argument, worn pretty thin at this point.
You’re delusional if you think more people attend nascar races today than did 35 years ago.
Have a good evening.
Replying to @snowman_cledus @jwlpc
(2/2) in reality, no sporting event is ever 100% sold out in 2026, even the Super Bowl. So yes, times change just like business models. Would also argue there are larger crowds at most races in 2026 compared to 1996. You’re making a silly argument, it’s not apples to apples.
James Luther retweeted
Pic was snapped an hour+ before race began, Karen. Great crowd turnout at green flag! Unfortunately I can’t snap & post a comparative pic as I’d be destroyed by amazing race cars. But you have a great Sunday, OK?
Which would like me to post Cledus?
I have thousands…the stands were always full.
Replying to @RobsSportsShow @jwlpc
That actually the entire point of my tweet. I agree. Ask the guy that posts the same 5 pictures from 36 years ago every time NASCAR announces a sell out
I too long for the days when people are longing for the return of the playoffs and the next gen car.
This is fantastic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Replying to @BigMikeGwood12 @markmartin
I would love to go back to full season points and the old car, then in 5 years, when the ratings are the same and tracks aren’t rebuilding grandstands, we can begin calling for the return of the playoffs and the NextGen.
James Luther retweeted
Replying to @jwlpc
They're thinking that they have a race worth watching. And they're right.
James Luther retweeted
Replying to @Chad__15
I remember when teams changed engines after qualifying - why they had happy hour practice

















