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Pioneers get slaughtered; settlers get rich. How does this play out in pharma? I got chatty to sketch 3 graphs. First: Among the top 20 most valuable drug target franchises, who was the pioneer and who is taking the lion's share of revenue?
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More "trick", I think. A $2T valuation tells you very little about whether Anthropic would protect a 5-7 year drug discovery budget through a downturn.
These AI labs are worth a lot of money on paper, yes -- and an all-stock deal would buy them BMS's very hefty existing cash flows. But when push comes to shove, if the tech market takes a downturn, which R&D budgets do you think shareholders are going to beg Anthropic to cut first?! (hint: those cash intensive, pre-revenue "holy grail" drug programs look awfully exposed...!)
I am also rather cautious of the premise that AI will be able to take over so many support roles at a big pharma org consisting of 10s of thousands of FTEs. All that training data is great, sure! But even if you keep or grow your R&D team, I doubt that pharma's persistent R&D/operational demands could handle the learning curve involved in training AI to do those jobs.... esp. if you've already fired the people who knew how to do them. D'oh.
It's Halloween. Here's a trick-or-treat "thought experiment" for Anthropic (or OpenAI) going big into the Life Sciences. Probably more trick, than treat, but here goes...
Both have made making medicines a top priority, as described in Anthropic's S1. Right now they are taking some “small” bets in the space (~0.1% of expected market cap's). These are welcome moves and we are hopeful for more engagement in #biotech in general from the frontier lab companies.
But if you are a $2T public company (as they are likely to be post-IPO), how could you achieve scale in this life science domain? What’s the best way for maximum impact on bringing drugs to patients? [assuming that's the goal for their efforts in the life science]
I’d argue it's buying a large Pharma company and then radically changing the operating model to put compute and integration in the center.
Sort of like retrofitting a big Pharma R&D enterprise into a @NimbusTx model on steroids with compute and tech integration in the center, intercolated with deep biology and drug hunting capabilities, with operational execution on the periphery (impt, but not the driver). Own the learning loops, compress the DMTA cycle across a huge portfolio. Nucleate and empower teams around great potential medicines in a decentralized R&D model...
Let me get vaguely specific, for illustrative purposes.
Anthropic could buy $BMY for less than 10% of its market cap, an all-stock deal.
BMS has about 30,000 people. Trim commercial (a distraction to the radical change mission) by selling the long list of tail products (top 5 products are 70% of revenues).
Then apply frontier AI models to the business across the board - commercial, manufacturing, and R&D. Tons of data sits in these silos. With data, figure out where the bloat is in the corporate bureaucracy and remove it. Be especially aggressive on scaling back G&A and the lawyers, replacing headcount in those functions with AI-enablement. In the business functions, allow change-makers to focus on operational efficiency.
In R&D, BMS has about 3000 scientists/clinicians and operators on their R&D team. Keep or even grow this group - its where the magic has to start.
BMS has a legacy of great R&D advances and has tons of historical data. Frankly, they probably have some of the deepest datasets on mAb discovery (Mederex mouse one of the most prolific mAb platforms ever), induced proximity (CelMod and related datasets are without peer), cell therapy (Juno was a pioneer with one of largest CART datasets), radiopharma (more recently), and so much more. Deeply mine these datasets.
Take all the "me-too" R&D spend on crowded targets and dial it out of the portfolio... Refocus all that energy on building deep biology datasets to complement the historical modality data. Invest in deep cell and tissue profiling, all the ‘omics, at scale and in an integrated way. Put AI into the center of the operational workflow as an enabling tool for drug hunters, not replacing them. Work on fewer projects as a whole, but focus on “holy grail” drug targets and first-in-class/first-in-modality programs aiming for step-changes in treatment. And let AI operational efficiency compress clinical timelines as much as possible (10-20%).
Unleash teams of drug hunters with AI-powered R&D at scale on any/all therapeutic areas, not restricted to where commercial wants you to focus. A true science-first enterprise at scale. “A great medicine makes a commercial franchise, a commercial franchise doesn’t make great medicines” rings true to me here. Commercial voices, I'm told, dominate at BMS, even back in R&D. Maybe that's not optimal?
This would be a radical overhaul of a large R&D-intensive company. Give the experiment 5-7 years to alter the vector of R&D output. Long enough to see discovery-led changes percolate into early development and clinical PoC...
This kind of ongoing R&D investment would be tiny fraction of Anthropic’s revenues during that period, offset in part by the profits from the big commercial brands. A rounding error for them, but if it worked, this would fundamentally alter the industry’s trajectory.
Probably can’t be done - changing large legacy groups is hard - but seems like the only near-term way to truly test “AI at scale in drug R&D” is thru something audacious like this, rather than just thru small (and beautiful) case studies of program-focused biotech …
With $5T+ of anticipated market cap between the handful of frontier lab companies, this seems like a relatively small bet on a big prize.
And, lastly, make @Prof_Oak_ head of the BMS business unit of $ANT.
Trick or treat? Boo!!
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Allogeneic DCs don’t guarantee the right antigen-specific Tc responses will be generated, since there will be HLA discrepancies between the DC product and the patient. They may be more potent generically though. I think you’d also want to compare allogeneic to autologous engineered DCs with the same antigen selection process.
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To everyone with cancer who has reached out to @iskander and I about personalized therapeutic cancer vaccines: Your stories are an inspiration. I’m sorry we don’t have something that we know works. I’m sorry the vaccines cost over a hundred thousand dollars outside of trials, and so they aren’t available to everyone. I’m sorry we aren’t moving faster to make them work and make them cheaper. I promise you we are trying, but promises don’t cure cancer. I wish we were smarter, faster, and better. Despite the challenges we are not going to stop.
I had an idea for a story where a startup approaches VCs with this very idea but lets the monkeys develop cancer in a semi natural environment, to then test interventions on them. But the story is told from the monkeys perspective.
The unpredictability/messiness of bench biology and clinical trials are manifestations of the same phenomenon
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No amphibians today live entirely in the sea. Which is weird. And probably has something to do with saltwater and their delicate skin.
But here's a fossil that might be a marine amphibian!
A potential evolutionary gamechanger. My thoughts for @Nature
go.nature.com/4zkZcKz
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Biologists saying AI doesn't offer much to biomedicine might sound like hubris, but it's more of an embarrassing confession about how important we think our intelligence is to progress in biomedicine (as opposed to plain luck and elbow grease). 1/10
It’s always about the tech that comes out of the Bay Area but never about how Scotland gave the world Golden Retrievers and Border Collies
I feel like some very interesting therapeutics lie in the complement system. Not directly acting on it or its effectors, but utilizing it as a signal to trigger the activation of a manufactured protein. Let the body figure out where your drug needs to be activated
Karl Doberman if he had VC money
Warhound, the brain child of Ben Lamm and Palmer Luckey, emerges from stealth to genetically engineer dogs for military and law enforcement.
spr.ly/6011BHZNMF
You cannot make any reasonable conclusions by comparing the HR of the neoadjuvant vs INTerpath trial. Different cohorts, different end points, different questions!
But you would be valid in asking: is a better alternative to a $400k vaccine just administering pembro earlier? $MRNA should absolutely run a trial for this.
Pembro before surgery + after surgery vs vaccine + pembro after surgery
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$MRNA back to reality.
$MRNA with the single most hilarious possible outcome in this study. EFS HR 0.58. Down the the hundredth, EXACTLY what *NEO*-adjuvant treatment with pembro yielded against adjuvant pembro (the nerfed comparator $MRNA studied against) in SWOG S1801.
What does this mean in English? $MRNA’s drug is showing the exact same benefit versus adjuvant pembrolizumab as NEOadjuvant pembrolizumab did.
Even more simply? If you just give patients a few doses of the pembrolizumab BEFORE you cut their cancer out, you do what $MRNA does for you, except with just the free tumor that’s already inside your body. No need to pay for this $400K drug.
And this makes rational sense, right? The whole point of $MRNA’s vaccine is to produce stuff that looks like the tumor.
You know what looks A LOT like the tumor does? THE FREAKING TUMOR!!!!!!
Absolutely poetic that $MRNA produced the EXACT HR benefit as neoadjuvant pembro did. Truly, the most hilarious possible outcome.
Now can we move on from this bullshit? $MRK and $MRNA should feel free to study their vaccine against the REAL standard of care now - NEOadjuvant immunotherapy.
From my perspective, this has been total fugaze, and an amateurish pump and dump worthy of much lesser enterprises.















