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😅他们好像为此很自豪,无语。。。。
我的看法就是预测市场的流动性和交易量是相辅相成的,
无数例子已经证明了这点
一定要先保护流动性,流动性溢出了再考虑平衡的事情
这种tick size,不改的话我保证他们的流动性永远起不来
Our reward campaigns for @Outcomexyz on @HyperliquidX prove that proper incentive design drives REAL action - MMs are taking real risk at spreads 10x tighter than any other prediction market
Much more work to be done to bolster depth, We’re only just getting started!
话说都重写CLOB了,那个啥, 干脆借此直接上#POLY链吧🫣
Honest post: the Polymarket DeFi CLOB is full of tech debt. It grew fast, got hacked together, and most of the team inherited it that way. Since joining and building out the team, we have scaled it 10x and made it 3x faster, but it’s not enough; the core foundations of how it’s been built are wrong in almost every way. You try to fix one thing, and another thing goes wrong; the conclusion now is that the codebase can’t be saved long-term.
The exchange is the heart of Polymarket; everything runs through it. If we want to be the best exchange in the world, it must be fast, stable, and scalable. We can’t keep patching the old one, where these core foundations are generally missing throughout, so we’re rewriting it from scratch in Rust.
Early numbers: 10-20x faster on p99 than today, 200,000 orders per second (15x what we have now, with room to reach 400,000+), and stability under load. This will put us faster than most exchanges, including CEXs.
Building it in Rust gives us memory safety with no garbage collector. No GC means no random pauses and no random latency spikes; the tail latency in the benchmarks is the tail latency you get in production, alongside a strict compiler that enforces correctness up front. Data races and memory corruption (the bugs that take exchanges down) can’t exist in the first place.
Polymarket has to take it seriously that we are an exchange; this is people’s money, not a joke. To succeed, we have to fix this; otherwise, we will fail. It’s as simple as that. I joined to build the best software in the world, not to maintain some of the worst, and I will do everything I can to make Polymarket a serious exchange.
We are aiming to have the exchange ready sometime in Q4 (mid to end). I'll communicate progress as we go so you all know the status. Breaking changes will be minimal for all integrators and will be communicated in advance. We will maintain the existing CLOB and keep trying to improve it as we build this side by side. We can’t wait to throw away the existing CLOB; we dislike it as much as you all do.
Make Polymarket fast, finally.
polymarket真的是太蠢了
1. 降低taker delay到50ms
2. 降低顶级taker的手续费而不是降低腰部taker的手续费
3. 推出vpc
这些做法完全违背本应该是“群体智慧“的预测市场, 这样搞下去, 所谓预测市场无非是另一个纳斯达克期权交易市场而已, 只有janesreet, jump这些大机构做市的市场
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breaking news ⚠️
Bonereaper has been getting a 80% fee rebate on polymarket ever since the 7th, as well as other accounts that are from the same funder.
Bonereaper has obisidian rank, which gives him a max of 50% taker rebate...
So polymarket is making deals behind the backs of the community. This was not announced anywhere until a member of the community pointed it out..
No statement from polymarket so far.
Seriously what was the logic behind this 😂😂😂Dudes literally operate on the blockchain with the narrative that its all open, public and honest then go ahead and shoot themselves in the foot by doing stuff like this 😂😂😂
:Bidensmile:
1/ Synth's HFT team has found that @Kalshi’s 15-min BTC market is beginning to predict subsequent BTC moves on @binance and all other CEXs.
And strength of this predictive relationship has grown materially throughout 2026 (see image).
@Kalshi is becoming the venue for BTC price discovery on short time horizons.
🧵
#kalshi #polymarket #updown
Kalshi BTC up/down isn’t safe anymore. It’s full of manipulation now.
Example: market kxbtc15m-26aug120115.
Two minutes before close, manipulator propped price with 100 BTC, then cancelled after market closed.
Can Kalshi protect market integrity?
I think a lot of MMs are taking losses. Liquidity’s clearly thinner. Kalshi will look like Polymarket soon.
@j0hnwang @icobeast
看评论区你们老是说这个不行那个不行, 忽悠人, 我再截图证明下这些的盈利潜力, 搞起来把🤑🤑🤑
图1是低区间maker, 这是我最早跑的简单版本, 直接全部市场无特殊规则做市的利润 —— 如果你针对特定高交易高波动市场, 比如加密和体育再搞搞专门的bot, 月入几十k很轻松
至于后面几个都是跑体育 99.9c maker账号的盈利(当然了也就1/3利润是99.9c直接带来的, 其他都是变种策略盈利), 单号都是过100k的利润
至于你问我为什么不继续搞了 ———就是因为半退休了, 懒了,不赚大钱不想看🤨
🤔你们不要怕下错单嘛, 我再来给你个tips:
比如说篮球一场进球判无效是多少, 也就3分吧, 少于3分误差就大胆干, 出错的概率历史上也没有吧, 这个条件一加就没太大风险了
其实反过来玩法也可以玩的, 就是干这些出错的:
比如网球就盯着运动员伤病无法完成比赛, CS就盯着断网断线比赛提前结束
Shit😅
Poly上因为这个亏得最多得冤大头就是我
我最早玩Poly写了一个体育99.9c策略, 其实没啥利润, 风险又大, 但是因为能赚几个小钱就懒得关掉; 这波一下亏大发了, 不过正好让我下决心停掉
我公布出来玩法吧, 你们想搞还是可以赚小钱的(我不想让做这么蠢策略的人因为我的停机赚钱,哈哈😁)
策略内容:
1. polymarket上存在一个tick_size_change的通知, 在这个之前你只能下99c的价格, 在这个之后你能下99.9c
2.利用这个机制, 很多时候事件的结果已经出现了, 比如A队赢了B队, 这个时候你就可以等这个事件出来, 去抢99.9c的位置
策略技巧:
1. 如何抢到队列前面位置呢?按目前poly的机制来看(改过很多版本, 如果你们要做这个策略要自己跟踪), 就是谁最先下单谁抢到前面的位置———— 因此顶着ratelimit一直下单, 不等ws通知tick_size_change是最好的
2. 如何获取比赛结果呢?
* 你可以通过poly的propose机制来获取, 比如体育比赛, 有人propose A队赢了, 监听这个事件后如果发现tick_size还是0.01, 你就可以进去等待tick_size变化
* 你也可以通过公开网站的体育数据来确定, 比如说espn, nba.com
3. 如何防止下错单呢? 这个就需要你自己看了
再送大家一个简单策略吧😋接下来我停机一个就公布一个:
我们做maker赚LP和spread的时候, 最担心的就是被toxic flow take走, 因为基本面变化挂单被吃导致损失
那有没有什么办法能让我们避免这种损失呢?
一种方法是, 很多人做LP/Maker的时候是带提前带上信息/方向来做市的, 我这里介绍另一种方法:
* 在低概率区间0-5c做Maker
根据概率的原理, 在极值概率区间, 概率的变化更慢, 比如btc是up还是down, 50%->75%可能价格波动100点, 但是10%->1%可能也是要价格波动100点(这里额外讲下, 所以你基建不好的散户做这种crypto/sport市场更应该做0-5c, 而不是做其他区间)
在这个区间挂单吃LP/Spread, 能简单无脑的减少toxic flow带来的损失
* 价格变化慢, 2c接货了过半年可能还在1c
* 真亏完就亏几c, 一次成交就赚1c
Shit😅
Poly上因为这个亏得最多得冤大头就是我
我最早玩Poly写了一个体育99.9c策略, 其实没啥利润, 风险又大, 但是因为能赚几个小钱就懒得关掉; 这波一下亏大发了, 不过正好让我下决心停掉
我公布出来玩法吧, 你们想搞还是可以赚小钱的(我不想让做这么蠢策略的人因为我的停机赚钱,哈哈😁)
策略内容:
1. polymarket上存在一个tick_size_change的通知, 在这个之前你只能下99c的价格, 在这个之后你能下99.9c
2.利用这个机制, 很多时候事件的结果已经出现了, 比如A队赢了B队, 这个时候你就可以等这个事件出来, 去抢99.9c的位置
策略技巧:
1. 如何抢到队列前面位置呢?按目前poly的机制来看(改过很多版本, 如果你们要做这个策略要自己跟踪), 就是谁最先下单谁抢到前面的位置———— 因此顶着ratelimit一直下单, 不等ws通知tick_size_change是最好的
2. 如何获取比赛结果呢?
* 你可以通过poly的propose机制来获取, 比如体育比赛, 有人propose A队赢了, 监听这个事件后如果发现tick_size还是0.01, 你就可以进去等待tick_size变化
* 你也可以通过公开网站的体育数据来确定, 比如说espn, nba.com
3. 如何防止下错单呢? 这个就需要你自己看了
MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR RINSE: Full single-post summary for people with normal sleep schedules of the most insane rinsing of bond bots I've seen firsthand, in which PM bonders appear to have lost 7 figures🤯
Scene: Last MLB game of the night (Giants vs Angels) bottom of the 10th inning tied 6-6. The time is ~1:15am EDT
- With the bases loaded, Devers hits what is normally a ground rule double. The initial final score shown is an 8-6 Giants win (due to an official MLB scorer error). Video below in thread
- Over 13.5 runs, Giants -1.5, and Giants team total o7.5 runs bond to 99c thanks to bots
- MLB rules state that a walk off ground rule double cannot score multiple runs and in this scenario counts as a single instead of a double
- People start to realize this and insane action comes in to unbond the above markets. Prices go absolutely haywire, touching 1c and 99c multiple times
- Kalshi closes and settles the totals & team totals markets while at least one (if not all) of the listed source agencies (MLB / Fox Sports / ESPN) still showed the final score as 8-6. PolyUS does the same for settlement of Giants -1.5
- However, the Kalshi spread (run line) markets remained open longer. Source agencies had then changed the final score to be 7-6. Market volume on the spread balloons from under 12,000 to 5 million (!) between the start of the bottom of the 10th inning and final market settlement
- Despite Kalshi settling the total as over 13.5 based on an 8-6 final score, per their CFTC rules, the spread must now settle Angels +1.5 as a win, and it does
- PolyInt settles Angels +1.5 as a win as well, rinsing botters there too and appearing to make the total losses for traders assuming a 8-6 final score "multi-millions" across all exchanges
- Sportsbooks all appear to have paid out incorrectly initially as well, but it seems all of them have resettled based on the 7-6 final score. CFTC certified exchanges on the other hand don't quite work the same way as sportsbooks.
- I fail to make riches since my 1am brain was staring at just the totals market and didn't notice the spread market had stayed open longer until it was too late
- I'm aware of some of the big winners, but am yet to hear who specifically were the big losers on this score adjustment
- Kalshi volume on the two "incorrectly" settled markets: 1.1mil on o/u 13.5 runs, ~60k on o/u 7.5 Giants team total. No idea or guess on how much was traded on the PolyUS "incorrectly" settled spread market. I would not expect a refund if you had the wrong side of these markets since the settlements appear to have complied with the sites' CFTC rules, but we'll see
TLDR: An official MLB score correction post-game made some grinders rich and rinsed others (mostly botters, I assume). Per the sites' CFTC rules, it appears all markets were settled correctly despite being inconsistent settlements
great.
Also I think Polymarket only needs to adopt the same TWAP rules as Kalshi on 15m markets, while keeping 5m on the current rules for now, let's observe for a while first.. 🧐
The upside:
* Once 15m rules align with Kalshi, liquidity should start sharing immediately.
* 5m stays as-is, so users still get choice: one product that matches the competitor, one that keeps drawing thrill-seekers.
Right now 5m and 15m on Polymarket overlap completely, and 15m has almost no liquidity. If both switch to TWAP the same way, 5m will still cannibalize 15m liquidity.
Replying to @predict_anon
We won’t launch more markets instantly; our first focus is to grow the existing markets back.
"we will aggressively grow the crypto markets on Polymarket"
I'm a bit worried polymarket will launch even more markets…
I think it's better to keep things concentrated—liquidity and volume feed each other, and splintering across too many markets is exactly what creates problems.
Replying to @coinbureau
We are in the final stages of finishing TWAP on the crypto markets; it’s taken us longer than we wanted due to a core change from Chainlink and our system. This will go live in early August, and we will then aggressively grow the crypto markets on Polymarket. We are reaching out to builders and market makers soon about the rollout plan.