this is a very good point. What the arab parties are basically calling for is the lebanonization of israel.
Lebanon is not a shoah. its not gaza. its actually very tolerant.
IT JUST DOESNT WORK. Ever.
Someone needs to win. Luckily the israelis have such a demographic majority that they can clearly win but with caveats, in a way that is not true of lebanon because of the sunni/shia/christian split
So here's how integrating the "Arab Parties" -- with a focus on the Joint List -- would actually hamper the integration of 2 million Arab Israelis.
As I lay out at length in the quote-tweeted thread, there are critical, unbridgeable gaps between the Zionist Opposition and the Joint List (even @yayafink from the Democrats was on @newsisrael13 earlier, saying the Joint List would not be in the government).
Namely:
- the State's identity (I don't think the Zionist parties can or should compromise on that, and ADM by emphasizing preserving Israel as a "Jewish democratic state" would seemingly agree). Israel is long overdue for a constitution; this would preclude one from being drafted or adopted during this government's lifetime, and no the Netanyahu-aligned opposition will not vote for it even if they agree with every principle laid out therein. So that's off the table, with everything it entails regarding the relationship between religion and state and society and state that entails.
-Security -- I'm not sure how any of the opposition Zionist parties can accept compromises when it comes to the defense budget, the IDF's role and -- for a coalition calling itself the "alliance of the conscripted" -- any compromise on Haredi conscription, which the "Arab Parties" oppose and which has reverberations on the economy and society far beyond just the IDF's manpower shortage.
-Ultra-Orthodox integration, especially into the army: I mean look at this poll of 18-22 Israelis, and what's the number one party. UTJ. That trend is going to magically reverse during the life of a government that fails to address it because it can't get the votes? nitter.cf/israel_elects/status/2…
Let's assume these issues go unaddressed -- the central issues upon which all of the Zionist opposition parties ran and specifically upon which they distinguished themselves day in and day out from the "Netanyahu bloc" and how they eked out every last vote.
-You will have massive brain drain from Israel, as increasing numbers of Israelis cave into the frustration of subsidizing the Haredi Autonomy as @EylonALevy has dubbed it (good show, too!). This subisidization also has a tremendous impact on what some polls found to be the number 1 issue that drove Israelis to polls: the cost of living.
See: nitter.cf/israel_elects/status/2…
and especially here, where Cost of Living outranked Haredi draft exemption (and the two are interlinked), October 7 failures, and the Iran war: nitter.cf/israel_elects/status/2…
-You will have massive loss of public trust in the ability of "change coalitions" to bring about the promised change.
And whose fault will a frustrated and angry public believe this to be? I assure you, "the Arabs." "Ah, if only we hadn't included them in the government, then these matters would have been addressed."
Now, imagine if somehow the Zionist opposition parties accept a compromise on IDF recruitment/manpower and the security budget -- and either a massive terror attack happens or a series of smaller terror attacks/a terrorism wave happens. That's going to influence Jewish Israeli mainstream public opinion towards more integration? Especially when there are sufficient voices with large enough platforms that will readily take this up and say: "look what this government with the Arabs brought you."
This doesn't mean integration shouldn't happen or be actively pursued. Arab Israeli turnout shows the "Arab vote" cannot be ignored, nor as a matter of Israel's democratic values should it be ignored even if the turnout were much lower.
But as I've noted elsewhere, this and Haredi demographic polling should be a wake-up call to the Zionist parties to start actively seeking to strip away the base of all sectoral parties. There is nothing more damaging to the ability of a country to function than sectoral parties (see, again, Lebanon or, increasingly, the Untied States much to my horror).
I frankly don't know how a viable and durable government is going to be formed with the current numbers, nor will I presume to play a game of fantasy football just to get past 61.
But -- and this effort should have begun in earnest decades ago, but alas 🤷♂️) responsible Right and Left parties must, as an existential matter, begin earnestly seeking to make Arabs and Haredim part of their constituencies, no different than how Begin make the Sephardic vote by and large a default Likud vote. Not just by getting them to the polls on election day and dumping their concerns the next day, but by actually showing that these parties will make these communities' concerns their own and will take practical, concrete -- if incremental -- measures to address those issues, i.e. pracrtically demonstrating that Arab/Haredi concerns can be addressed from within a Zionist context and by Zionist parties.
But in the meantime, whatever government comes into office must prioritize having the numbers to deal with the existential issues at hand coming from ultra-Orthodox integration while also taking it upon itself to deal with the concerns of the Arab Israeli sector, whether or not an "Arab Party" is included.
I’m probably being that person, but that flyover in DC right now was very scary. Essentially no heads up that it would be happening and it sounded like a regular commercial plane (AF1 essentially is). I don’t mind jets but I actually thought a plane was going to crash
Satmar in Denial retweeted
The collective wisdom of humanity: "idle hands are the devil's playthings."
AI bros: "let's put everyone out of work forever."
the consequence of bennet calling it terrorism has been his electoral implosion and the demise of his political relevance.
Replying to @DavidADaoud
If @naftalibennett can and has called what's going on in Judea-Samaria/West Bank "Jewish terrorism" (and rightly so), and I imagine any sensible person would expect him to do so, then Mansour Abbas can likewise be expected to call Hamas a terror organization 🤷♂️
CAN WE JUST SAY YES. I WANT TO GO TO AFULA AND INSULT MIZRAHIM
Report: Trump pledged to secure a full IDF withdrawal from Lebanon if Beirut agrees to join the Abraham Accords, a senior Gulf diplomatic source told the Lebanese newspaper Ad-Diyar.
jpost.com/middle-east/articl…
Look like new elections needed
Where Arabs can get even more
Votes
Ra’am party leader Mansour Abbas believes the establishment of a minority government led by Yashar party chair Gadi Eisenkot, with the outside support of Arab parties, is weak or impossible, Channel 12 news reports.
Abbas reportedly expressed the feeling in a meeting with party members.
It comes after the Jewish-led bloc against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed to win a majority in its own right in the election.
Only The Democrats have expressed openness to including Arab-majority parties.
morocco ethnically cleansed jews
source: afulapedia
Replying to @DenialLaw
funny that every Arab country does mass ethnic cleansing and then talks about how they don't discriminate against anyone, Arabs are smarter than Jews for sure
this is a good point and criticism of jordan!
big mistake!
Replying to @DenialLaw
Neturei Karta members requested that they be made Jordanian citizens and were refused because the Jordanian government did not want the existence of a Jewish population in its state however small (in this case a few hundred people at most). I can show you the documents.
Replying to @DenialLaw
Neturei Karta members requested that they be made Jordanian citizens and were refused because the Jordanian government did not want the existence of a Jewish population in its state however small (in this case a few hundred people at most). I can show you the documents.
ACT median of this school
21
We were concerned that the SAT has become a less reliable measure of student preparedness for a rigorous college curriculum.
So, we commissioned a study from Johns Hopkins University. What does this study tell us about the state of higher education?
The results are shocking. thaq.co/4iLThZ0
Satmar in Denial retweeted
It's 2026. Your lab throws the biggest Halloween party to celebrate the Death of Mathematics. PIs are wasted in the coffee room, Phds and postdocs dance around a bonfire from obsolete preprints, even Reviewer 2 is having fun
And then the DJ (Fields medal) throws this banger 🎉
Automated
Lots of debate this week on whether journals should ban AI in peer review.
We actually tested this in our new preprint, and the results were pretty clear to me.
For context, I've reviewed for most of the big journals and evaluated 1,000 human reviews as an editor. I love to read and evaluate science.
TLDR: From now on I won't do any peer review without AI. For clinical trials, I'd even call human-only review dangerous 🧵






















