A Muslim who engages with Critical Scholarship of the Quran
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Academics have now entered the the Debate Industrial Complex’s AI thumbnail art. A good example of why academics should stay away from the uncivilized.
🚨 NICOLAI SINAI IS MAD AT MUSLIM SCHOLARSHIP: STOP MISREPRESENTING WHAT I SAID!
Muslim scholars and others @DrJavadHashmi | @KhalilAndani | @IraniRoxanna & Dawahghandist | @Deenresponds | @muslimorthodoxy| @korrathetaymi invoke Oxford scholar Nicolai Sinai to defend their claims about MUHAYMIN (Quran 5:48).
Then we play SINAI HIMSELF. 💥 Credit: @InspiringPhilos , @SCApologia @JaiNDoC_RL
🔥 Stop borrowing a scholar's credentials while ignoring what he actually argues.
WATCH THE VIDEO.
The Muslim Zindiq retweeted
New Video with Dr Samuel Zinner.
Showing undoubtedly so that the Quran Knows The Gospel of Luke TEXTUALLY.
youtu.be/29oFushsu-M?si=atQ8…
Q&A
Barley any questions directed towards Godlogic and all the questions were almost towards Javad. The Questions were slop and nothing useful. Most of the Audience were Christians.
Alright at this point I'm convinced most Christians are functionally Marcionites. Despite viewing Maricon as an arch heretic they see the Old testament as an old law that was meant for the ancient Israelites which contains laws which they agree are abhorrent by today's standards and the New Testament abrogated it and is superior ethically.
ehrmanblog.org/modern-christ…
Jesus lived 600 years earlier in a far more unrefined era, yet He never owned a single slave. What is most startling about Christ is how He entirely bypassed the cultural traps of antiquity. He easily could have engaged in the socially permissible norms of His day that age horribly now; like marrying a minor, or owning and sexually exploiting slaves. But He didn’t. He lived with absolute moral perfection in a time when the ethical bar was on the floor, and His standard remains flawless today. He is God.
Potential parallels found with Origen and the Quran on the killing of prophets and the concealment/rewriting of Passages that put Israelites in a bad light.
Origen argues the elders and Jewish leaders concealed passages such as the killing of the prophets to paint Jewish leaders in a better light so that the common people could not discredit them.
similar arguments found in Quran 2:76-91 were the Quran says Jewish leaders concealed verses so they people could not use it in argument against the Jews, then the Quran argues against the Israelites by saying and they slew the prophets.
I think in my opinion the Quran here is arguing that the Jews of Madinah concealed passages in the Hebrew Bible that portray Israelites in a bad light, and then the Quran goes on to talk about stories of Israelites that are negative such as the worship of the Golden Calf, Slaying of prophets, etc, for polemical purposes.
The Muslim Zindiq retweeted
I cannot stop thinking about this really intriguing point that @SCApologia brought up in our discussion, which I wish we had had more time to explore. Having done a bit of research since, there appears to be a real dearth of work on this in Qur’anic Studies.
However, it does appear that the Qur’an’s favouring of the Septuagint reading was most likely due to the intermediary of Syriac in its linguistic environment, as the below study explores in relation to Isaiah 8:16:
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Double edged sword here. The Quran has many parallels with the clementine homilies which, most scholars say is anti Pauline. The Quran also says the Gospel was given to Jesus with no mention of Paul. But at the same time the Quran is pro Pauline in many aspects such as natural law. Also most Christians hold Paul to a very special place, so I don't think insulting Paul or saying Paul "corrupted" Christianity is going to lead to any constructive dialogue. Also I'm unsure whether the modern gentile interpretation of Paul is the correct one, See Paul within Judaism and Adamic/Angelic/Binitarian Christology.
I still think Delman is spot on here though.
@NeumanNazirite @salsabilhistory thoughts on this? you guys are the only pro-Pauline Muslims I know on twitter.
The Muslim Zindiq retweeted
New Book Chapter "The White Hand of Moses as a "Clear Sign": The Reception of Exodus 4 and 7 in the Qur'an" by Kate Tinson in "The Reception of Exodus Motifs in Christian, Jewish, and Islamic Writings"
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One of the Quran's essential elements of morality is it's disdain towards religious exclusivism. The Quran in many places Consciously Edits and removes religious exclusivism from the prior scriptures as it views it as a corruption the Israelites invented so it would appear that God favored them. The Quran denies any such claims.
Here is a very simple example with Moses and Pharaoh discussing lord of all worlds vs god of the Hebrews.
The Muslim Zindiq retweeted
Iskandar and the Seven Sages (1494–95) a Persian miniature from Nezami Ganjavi’s Khamsa, produced in Timurid Herat, depicts Alexander the Great in the company of seven sages:- Aristotle, Vettius Valens, Apollonius of Tyana, Socrates, Porphyry, Hermes, Plato.
The Muslim Zindiq retweeted
I appreciate this. It is important to note that the bar to proving plagiarism is high & not so easy to meet. Similarities between two scholars' arguments could happen due to a variety of reasons such as drawing on the same set of evidence, especially if as in this case they're
Dear Mehdy Shaddel,
I would like to apologize to you for making such an accusation. This was a very foolish claim by me. At the time, I found the similarities between Gobillot's argument and yours to be very similar to the point you guys were making essentially the same argument. But as you point out this ultimately derives from the fact that you both are pointing out parallels from the text you are both finding parallels in, that is, the Pseudo Clementine Homilies. And people can independently come to the same reasoning and conclusions
I know it can be difficult when some anonymous user online accuses you of plagiarism and your peers also use this website, so again i would like to reiterate I am very sorry for this accusation.