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checking back in to watch the shitshow. πŸ‘€ don’t let me rage-bait you with facts

Joined May 2024
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β€œScience is not determined by consensus.” Therefore, life doesn’t begin at conception. 🍿🍿🍿
Science is not determined by consensus. The medical consensus was also that the brain was irrelevant to thought, and it all happened in the heart. People can be wrong in large groups
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Apparently, Carolyn believes that a blastocyst has to sign an informed-consent form.
Well, for starters, a fetus doesn’t have the capacity to violate a woman’s will.
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Again…
You just changed the right under discussion. I did not ask whether all humans have a right not to be killed. πŸ₯΄ I asked whether all humans have a right to use another person’s body and organs against their will. You answered: β€œYes.” Then immediately limited that bodily entitlement to unborn humans because they need a womb. That is still: YES …all humans possess the right and NO …only unborn humans actually possess the relevant bodily entitlement You cannot repair the contradiction by swapping in a different right afterward. So again: Do born humans have a right to use another person’s body and organs against their will? Yes or no. 🍿
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The question was whether unique human DNA gives someone a right to use another person’s body and organs against their will. His answer was: β€œYes! During the pre-natal phase of the human life cycle!” That matters because it concedes the entire disputed structure: humans generally do not possess that bodily entitlement, but one class of humans supposedly does prenatally. So when he later talks about β€œequal rights,” β€œhierarchy,” β€œautonomy,” or β€œhuman rights,” you can simply return to this. He has already admitted the asymmetry. Save it. Quote it. Use it every time the argument gets buried under rhetoric.
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They needed seven premises to arrive at: β€œOne organism’s autonomy does not include authority over another organism.” Friend. That is literally my position. What happens if it’s applied it to both organisms? Consistency. Equality. Logic.
Premises 1. Human sexual reproduction is the product of evolutionary processes that selected for internal fertilization and prolonged gestation within the female body as the means of producing offspring. 2. As a result of this evolved reproductive biology, successful fertilization after sexual activity normally initiates pregnancy: the temporary dependence of a new organism on the maternal body is the designed outcome of the system, not an accidental or external imposition. 3. Full bodily autonomy, exercised through consensual sexual activity, therefore already includes the biological possibility and natural consequence of pregnancy; the pregnancy is not something that occurs outside or against that autonomy, but as its evolved result. 4. From the moment of fertilization, the human zygote/embryo/fetus is a distinct, living human organism: it possesses its own unique genome, its own developmental program, and its own integrated biological processes that are not merely a part or tissue of the mother. 5. As an independent living organism, the fetus has its own bodily integrity and, by the same logic of bodily autonomy applied to any organism, a claim not to have its body deliberately destroyed. 6. The mother’s bodily autonomy, however extensive, does not extend to the right to end the existence of a separate organism that is already living inside her as the natural result of her prior exercise of autonomy. 7. Claiming that abortion is itself an exercise of bodily autonomy therefore involves a double inconsistency: (a) it treats as an unwanted external intrusion what evolution and one’s own prior actions produced as the ordinary reproductive outcome, and (b) it asserts a right to destroy another organism’s body in the name of protecting one’s own. Conclusion: The bodily-autonomy argument for abortion is self-defeating. Pregnancy is the evolved consequence of sexual autonomy already exercised; the fetus is a separate living organism with its own bodily integrity; and one organism’s autonomy does not include the authority to extinguish another. This is why the position rejects abortion.
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β€œYou’re here because you know I’m right” is an incredible thing to put in your bio when your debate strategy is apparently declare victory before opening notifications. Apparently, when you lose a lot of arguments, preparation is everything. β€œIf you stay ready, you ain’t got to get ready.” ~Bob the Drag Queen πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
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β€œThe same exact rights you enjoy for yourself.” Perfect. πŸ˜‚ Then the fetus has exactly what I have: a right to life, but no automatic entitlement to another person’s blood, organs, tissue, or physiological functions against their will. This dipshit keeps insisting on β€œequal rights” while quietly adding one extra right exclusively for pregnancy. That’s not equality. That’s the exception this coward still refuses to say with their full chest.
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When they accidentally reveal they’re in a cult. Oof.
That just means those organizations drank the Kool-Aid. It doesn’t make those statements true. Reproductive care and abortion are oxymorons.
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β€œWhen cat closes a door, cat always opens a window …then the fucker escapes.”
i have always vented on here about people who piss me off irl but i have never used anyones name so literally no one knows who tf i am talking about but i swear to cat i hear one more word about me telling the truth about someone β€œpublicly” despite it being anonymous i will just start using actual names if i am going to be in trouble for something i might as well actually do what I’m being punished for πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
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I'm sorry we never got a chance to meet, but getting this note from Dolly really had a an impact on me. She definitely didn't have to take the time to do it. Even for a kid who mostly listened to rap music, she was an icon. A superstar in every sense. Rest easy Dolly. And thank you for the kind words.
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I dog-walked a Cat into explicitly admitting that pregnancy is the exception they want to the ordinary rule against forced internal bodily support. At this point, all one needs to do is reject their plea for an exception. My answer is β€œNO.”
The β€œIf I” hypotheticals are not the basis or structure of my arguments. They are your reframing. My claim is narrower and rooted in biology, not a conditional you invented: A human organism begins at fertilization through the parents’ voluntary act. From that moment its continued existence and species-typical development require remaining inside the only environment nature designed for that stage of its life cycleβ€”the mother’s body. That is not an arbitrary exception to a general rule. It is the natural process of human gestation. Ending that organism’s life by removing it from the only place it can continue is not equivalent to refusing to donate a kidney to an already-born person no longer in that developmental stage. Causation, dependency, parenthood, and the fact that death follows gain their moral weight from that continuous, species-specific developmental relationship. You treat the natural process as a circular add-on. It is why the analogy to forced organ use fails. Is pregnancy the morally relevant exception to the ordinary rule against forced internal bodily support? Yes, because pregnancy is the natural continuation of the human organism you helped create, not a random medical attachment of one independent person to another.
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No, well, that actually proves my distinction. 🀭 A house is property external to your body. A uterus is part of a person’s body. Evicting someone from a house withdraws access to property. Ending gestation withdraws access to another person’s organs and physiological functions. Those are not the same category. And their analogy still quietly assumes the disputed point: that a fetus has a right to remain inside someone’s body in the first place. πŸ₯΄ They keep replacing bodily entitlement with property analogies because the property version is easier to defend. But pregnancy is not tenancy. Your uterus is not a rental unit. The special plea remains: they want one human to have a right to another person’s internal body that no born human ordinarily has. The answer is still β€œNO.”
I'm merely withdrawing the use of my property from a separate individual using my house without my consent, it's very analogous.
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