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writer Contributing Editor @the_point_mag

New York
Joined July 2022
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We believe that this entire text is AI. pangram.com/history/443433dd…
No, but listen, you know this "put the fries in the bag, Terence Tao"'--*sniff, sniff*--already the usual replies concede too much. "If Tao is serving fries, YOU will be in the lithium mines." My God! This is our defense of human dignity? Don’t worry, the correct people will get the terrible jobs! *Pulls at shirt* You see, everything is up for radical transformation, human intelligence, consciousness, and so on and so on--except that somebody must still have a shitty afternoon so I can enjoy my lunch. But to say "these people are envious", this is too easy. It allows us, "the educated ones," our own little fantasy: we are disliked only because we are so wonderful. You know, the more interesting thing is this *sniff* peculiar identification with the machine. When the mathematician discovers something, apparently this was HIS achievement, his privilege, his little secret. When the machine discovers something, suddenly it's "Look what WE can do!" The achievement has become collective precisely at the moment when no human being can claim credit. See how this "we" functions. For the achievement, I identify with the machine. For the consequences, I identify YOU with the human. "We have surpassed you." Who are we? Well, myself and the thing that has also surpassed me. There is something almost touching here, really. To escape the humiliation of somebody absorbed in something opaque to you, you appeal to something which knows incomparably more than either of you. And this is supposed to settle the matter in YOUR favor. You know the old example of canned laughter. Here we have a similar arrangement. The machine achieves something on my behalf. The mathematician suffers the loss of human significance on my behalf. Somebody to be brilliant for me and somebody to be obsolete for me, without me having to be either, so I can remain as I was. But *pulls on shirt* there is this little difficulty that hides the essential thing: you still need a response from Tao! A correct proof, this Lean slop and so on, is not enough. You need him to certify his own defeat. You need him to say "By god, this is extraordinary! Yes, this is correct, but also this is interesting." Which means--and here comes Hegel--the person you are reducing to an obedient instrument must remain more than an obedient instrument. You need recognition from someone whose authority you are abolishing. "Your so-called expertise is worthless. Now tell me, in your expert opinion, that I, qua machine representative, was right." *Touches nose* But I would go a step further. What does this math person actually do to provoke you? In the fantasy, I mean. He need not insult you. He can be generous, mild-mannered, whatever. Something remains irritating: there is something over there which occupies him, which matters to him, and your opinion does not settle what it is worth. Perhaps he is not even looking down on you. This is the really intolerable possibility. This, you see, is closer to the Lacanian problem of the Other's desire. Not simply "What does he have that I don't?" but "What the hell is going on with him?" Perhaps the answer is: he is thinking about something else. The fries solve this beautifully. Now you know what you are for him. He needs the money. Your presence creates an obligation. And this, at last, also explains why the machine can be less threatening than the mathematician. The machine's intelligence may exceed yours unimaginably, but you imagine it arrives in response to your prompt. You can complain about the tone. You have the privileges of an angry customer and so on and so on. The human has this irritating possibility of being interested in something you did not request and cannot order. And please, this includes the person already serving the fries! *Pulls at shirt* I am almost tempted to say: the dream of unlimited intelligence conceals just this: a the wish that nobody should be doing anything you cannot immediately understand as a service.
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Sovereign House is now a mosque
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Happens to be true though
No, nope we're not doing this one. We're not doing Marxist Neoliberalism. That was a 2010s thing.
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James Duesterberg retweeted
Attempting to found a new society and immediately subjecting everyone to black mold is incredible
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Imagine how much more content Rimbaud would have created if he had known about Bryan Johnson. Sad tbh
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James Duesterberg retweeted
The Point is pleased to announce, apropos of nothing in particular, the Blue Book Nonfiction Writing Contest, to be administered in-person, on college campuses across the country. The winning essay(s) will be published on our website. But not before an editor has a look!
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James Duesterberg retweeted
Quinn Slobodian has won this year’s National Book Critics Circle Award for Criticism for his book “Hayek’s Bastards.” For more on the book and the ideas that have shaped today’s ascendant right-wing movements, read his conversation with @jduesterberg: thepointmag.com/dialogue/bey…
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"unstoppable math"
Replying to @porousminds
We can opine about often hyperbolic or confused threats or put forward a vision of a life cohabited with unstoppable math Whatever threat exists will exist. Need to run towards the fire on this one.
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James Duesterberg retweeted
Tomorrow in Chicago: a @publicthinking_ conference on AI, featuring @a_n_a_berg, @jduesterberg, @leifweatherby, @JeffreyKirkwood, Nan Z. Da, Hannes Bajohr, N. Katherine Hayles and Patrick Jaogda. Details & RSVP here: eventbrite.com/e/the-meaning…
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February 27th in Chicago, join us for a @publicthinking_ conference at @UChicago on the meaning of AI. eventbrite.com/e/the-meaning…
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James Duesterberg retweeted
Delighted to be in The Point with my thoughts on how you have to not try to get as much as you can out of your credit card airline miles, or your charity dollars, or sex, or life itself
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