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The market wasn't ready for the language. So we kept having the conversations.
Looking back across the interviews George Coudounaris and I have done since 2023, I can see something now that I couldn't fully see at the time.
The architecture was already forming.
We weren't trying to create another sales methodology.
We were trying to understand why organisations could have great people, great technology, great frameworks and great intentions...
…and still have a broken revenue system.
Why does Sales know something Marketing doesn't?
Why does Customer Success discover something Product never hears?
Why does the market tell us exactly what it needs, but that intelligence disappears inside the organisation?
Why do we keep calling people “not interested” when what they really mean is
“Not yet.” But we would if…
Those questions became the foundations of what George and I would eventually formalise through Closed Circuit Selling™ and the broader first principles of business in Revenue Alignment Architecture™.
Catalogue the Market™.
Timing Intelligence™.
Close the Feedback Loop™.
Architecture Over Frameworks™.
As we know, true growth is always being open to perhaps what we dont know, but speaking with those that have learned what we may not have had access to.
So first, I want to say thank you.
Aaron Ross.
Collin Stewart.
Ryan Reisert.
Tony J Hughes.
Leslie Venetz.
Joey Gilkey.
Scott Leese.
Shawn Sease.
Paul Perrett.
Amarpreet Kalkat.
Charles Needham.
Steve Patti.
Carolyn Dilks.
Given the success of those collabs, we had to keep that running with
Phil Cleary.
Georgia Watson.
Pasha Irshad.
Jared Robin.
Alex Boyd.
Morgan J Ingram.
Santosh Sharan.
And then came the Aussie Home Grown Series
Keiran Longhurst.
Nickolas Sternberg Heyze.
Hayden Pawelski.
Amber Main.
James Sewell.
Graham Hawkins.
Dean Potter.
Every conversation has added another signal.
Another perspective.
Another challenge.
Another piece of the market.
And that matters because Revenue Alignment Architecture isn't something you build in isolation.
You build it by listening.
You test it.
You challenge it.
You validate it.
You close the feedback loop.
And a special thank you to Favikon and Flooencer.
Because while the interviews have given us the opportunity to develop and test the ideas with some incredible people across the industry, platforms like Favikon and Flooencer have provided something different…independent recognition of the contribution George and I are making to the RevOps and Revenue Alignment conversation.
Their rankings and creator intelligence have recognised our position within the RevOps & Sales Operations category and, importantly for us, have recognised the growing visibility of the ideas around Revenue Alignment Architecture™ that we outlined in our book
Closed Circuit Selling: Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market.
That recognition means a lot.
Not because a ranking proves an idea is right.
But because it shows that the conversation is reaching beyond the two of us.
The language is travelling.
The category is forming.
And people are beginning to recognise the work.
When I look back through these interviews, I don't see a collection of podcasts.
I see the trail of the architecture forming.
Early conversations about Catalogue the Market™.
Conversations about asking buyers directly rather than relying on untestable assumptions.
Conversations about timing windows and why “not interested” doesn't mean “not a buyer.”
Conversations about Sales feeding Marketing.
Marketing feeding Sales.
Customer Success feeding Product.
Leadership seeing market truth rather than simply pipeline numbers.
What would happen if all of this intelligence actually moved through one connected commercial system?
That became Closed Circuit Selling™
And the larger operating principle became Revenue Alignment Architecture™.
The book became the blueprint.
The interviews became the laboratory.
The market became the validator.
And now, the category is beginning to emerge around the language.
So this isn't a victory lap.
It's a thank you.
To everyone who has sat down with George and me, shared your experience, challenged an assumption, told a story, disagreed with us, encouraged us or simply gave us your time:
Thank you.
And to Favikon and Flooencer
Thank you for recognising the work.
You helped make the contribution visible.
Because ultimately, this has never been about creating another framework.
It's about building a commercial system intelligent enough to
Know the market.
Understand the timing.
Move the intelligence.
Align the organisation.
Close the circuit.
Five years in, the conversation is catching up.
And George and I are just getting started.
Wait til @FidelCacheFlow and my podcast drops….
Monday.
On The B2B Playbook.
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It's crazy that a $495 course got me further than a $100K college degree would have.
But realistically, it just taught me the basics of tech sales.
It didn't teach me:
- What company to work for and why
- Who to reach out to or how
- How to get over the fear of rejection
- How to stand out in the interview and the mock cold call
- How to evaluate or negotiate an offer
- What to do once I was hired to actually be a top SDR
It gave me a bunch of material with no clear path or action plan to actually get a job.
The basics were good. But if I knew then what I know now, I could have made a lot better decisions.
Excited to share recent appearance on the B2B Playbook with @manderovic
We talked High Probability Prospecting, Closed Circuit Selling, Contract Stacking and what Lead Intent really means in 2026.
Now available on YT & Spotify
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Gents.. more to come on this.. but get on the Youtube while its HOT....
Excited to share recent appearance on the B2B Playbook with @manderovic
We talked High Probability Prospecting, Closed Circuit Selling, Contract Stacking and what Lead Intent really means in 2026.
Now available on YT & Spotify
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I wonder what would have happened if I had started my career here.
I’m looking at this hypothetical office, imagining myself at 21-24, walking through the door for the first time.
Would I have become another GTM professional optimising a targeting strategy?
A GTM Engineer building sequences, workflows and automation?
A sales trainer teaching people how to open doors, handle objections and book meetings?
Perhaps.
But I wouldn’t have had the live education that came from 24 years in the field.
24 years.
12 verticals.
6 continents.
I wouldn’t have experienced the commercial realities across industries, organisations, customers, products and markets.
I wouldn’t have accumulated the battle scars.
I wouldn’t have learned what happens after the meeting is booked, after the contract is signed, after the promise is made, and when the organisation has to deliver.
And perhaps most importantly, I wouldn’t have had the mentoring, experiences and commercial lessons that eventually helped shape what George Coudounaris and I developed into a universal operating architecture.
Closed Circuit Selling™.
Here’s the uncomfortable question.
Have we become so focused on specialising in individual GTM functions that we’ve stopped educating people on how the entire commercial system works?
We can teach someone to target an account.
We can teach someone to automate an outbound sequence.
We can teach someone to book a meeting.
But can we teach them to understand the market, recognise buying conditions, interpret what customers are telling us, understand the business they’re selling for, and connect that intelligence to the decisions made across the organisation?
Because opening the door isn’t the same as understanding what happens inside the building.
And generating activity isn’t the same as architecting revenue.
I don’t regret the 24 years it took to understand this.
I just wonder how many people entering the industry today will be given the opportunity to learn the whole business, rather than just the function they’ve been hired to perform.
Maybe the next generation doesn’t need another way to sell.
Maybe it needs a better way to understand how business actually works.
Architecture over activity. Commercial understanding over functional specialisation.
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Appreciate it Tim.
@Favikon_ for the rankings 👏
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Spotted!!!!! Is that Mr Number 1, in Revenue Architecture (RevOps & Sales Ops) Globally, holding our book??
We removed the education that made salespeople commercially intelligent. Then we tried to replace it with technology.
There was a time when people entering commercial roles often started in Customer Service or Customer Success.
Before they were trusted to win new business, they had to understand how a business actually operated.
They learned what passed Legal.
What passed Credit.
What could be delivered profitably.
What made an account serviceable.
What had to be communicated at handover.
What the customer had been promised.
What happened after the contract was signed.
They spent time with customers.
They learned the operational realities behind the sale.
They understood the consequences of getting it wrong.
And, in some organisations, they earned the opportunity to progress into Business Development after demonstrating that they could look after customers and understand the business from the inside out.
It wasn't simply a career pathway.
It was commercial education.
They learned that winning a customer was only one part of creating a successful commercial relationship.
The business also had to deliver what it sold, collect what it was owed, protect its margins, meet its obligations and give the customer a reason to stay.
They understood that a sale could look brilliant on a spreadsheet and still be a terrible commercial decision.
Then the industry changed.
Sales Development became increasingly specialised.
New starters were given targets, sequences, scripts, CRM systems and activity quotas.
They were expected to generate meetings before necessarily understanding what happened after those meetings.
Technology made it easier to reach buyers without ever meeting them.
Automation made it easier to produce more activity without necessarily producing more understanding.
And AI now makes it possible to generate answers, research and messaging at a speed that would have been difficult to imagine a decade ago.
But there's a question we should be asking.
What happens when we accelerate the execution of people who haven't yet developed the commercial context to know what they're executing?
We can give someone an account list.
We can give them a battlecard.
We can give them an AI generated account summary.
We can give them the perfect discovery questions.
But if they don't understand the industry, the buyer, the product, the delivery model or the commercial consequences of the conversation, how do they know what matters when the buyer says something unexpected?
They might follow the process.
They might complete the fields.
They might even book the meeting.
But they may not understand the business they're trying to win.
And this is why I keep coming back to first principles.
The salesperson should be the account manager for the account they don't yet have.
That doesn't mean pretending the prospect is already a customer.
It means approaching the relationship with the commercial curiosity and responsibility required to understand the customer's world before asking them to buy.
What are they using today?
Why did they choose it?
What works?
What doesn't?
What would they change?
What are their contractual obligations?
When might their circumstances change?
What would make an alternative worth considering?
And, critically, if they did become a customer, could our business actually deliver what they need?
These questions aren't simply about qualifying an opportunity.
They're about understanding the commercial relationship before trying to create it.
We go back to the fundamentals, then architect them into a system.
1. Catalogue the Market™
Understand the customer, their current situation, their alternatives, their frustrations and their buying conditions through real conversations.
2. Timing Intelligence™
Recognise that a customer who cannot buy today may be commercially relevant in the future. Preserve that knowledge instead of discarding the relationship because it didn't produce an immediate meeting.
3. Close the Feedback Loop™
Ensure what Sales learns informs Marketing, Product, Customer Success, Finance and Leadership.
The information gathered before the sale should help the organisation make better decisions after the sale.
4. Architecture Over Frameworks™
Connect the behaviours, information and operational disciplines so the organisation doesn't depend on individual memory or isolated pockets of excellence.
And the architecture must extend beyond acquisition.
A commercially sound sale requires more than a signed agreement.
Legal requirements must be satisfied.
Credit boundaries must be understood.
Delivery capacity must be confirmed.
The commercial terms must be viable.
Customer Success must understand what was promised, who needs to be involved and how the relationship will be serviced.
The handover must preserve the intelligence gathered throughout the process.
Because the customer doesn't experience your departments as separate boxes on an organisational chart.
They experience one business.
If the circuit breaks between Sales and delivery, the customer experiences the break.
If the circuit breaks between the market and Product, the business misses opportunities to improve.
If the circuit breaks between a conversation and the next conversation, the organisation loses its memory.
These are not isolated departmental problems.
They are architectural problems.
And this is where AI becomes particularly important.
AI can accelerate research, capture conversations, analyse patterns and help people prepare.
But it cannot compensate automatically for an organisation that hasn't established what good commercial judgement looks like.
You can give someone better inputs.
You can automate the process.
You can generate more outputs.
But if the person doesn't understand the commercial context, they may not know how to interpret the result, challenge the recommendation or recognise when the conversation needs to change direction.
Technology should strengthen commercial understanding, not become a substitute for developing it.
This is not an argument for returning to every old organisational structure.
Some of those structures were inefficient. Not every successful salesperson needs to begin in Customer Success, and not every business can support that career pathway.
The principle is more important than the historical arrangement.
People responsible for winning business need to understand the business they're selling for.
They need to understand the customer they're selling to.
They need to understand the consequences of what they promise.
And the organisation needs to preserve and distribute what they learn.
That's commercial common sense.
But common sense, left informal, depends on the individual.
Architected common sense becomes a repeatable organisational capability.
That's what we're building with Closed Circuit Selling™.
Not another framework telling salespeople which question to ask next.
A commercial operating architecture that connects market understanding, buyer timing, revenue decisions, customer delivery and organisational learning.
Because the objective was never simply to become better at winning customers.
It was to build a business that understands whom it should win, why they should buy, when they might be ready, whether the business can serve them, and what must happen after the sale to make the relationship successful.
We don't need to abandon progress to recover the fundamentals.
We need to use progress to make those fundamentals work better.
Go back to first principles. Then build the architecture that ensures the business never loses sight of them.
Closed Circuit Selling™.
Commercial common sense, architected.
Revenue Alignment Architecture™.
LIVE The B2B Playbook Feat Morgan J Ingram @morganjingram
& George Coudounaris @georgecouda
Article
theb2bplaybook.com/what-make…
Listen on Spotify
open.spotify.com/episode/5Si…
AI won't fix your sales team. It will amplify whatever your sales team already knows.
We're being told that AI will make everyone a better salesperson.
It will research accounts.
Write personalised emails.
Generate discovery questions.
Analyse calls.
Handle objections.
Build proposals.
And accelerate almost every part of the sales process.
But there's a fundamental problem with that assumption.
AI can generate an answer without understanding whether it's the right answer for the commercial situation.
And if the person using it doesn't know the difference, who catches the mistake?
Think about it.
If a salesperson doesn't understand the buyer's industry, how can they judge whether AI's account research is commercially relevant?
If they don't understand discovery, how can they tell whether the questions AI generates will uncover a genuine buying problem?
If they don't understand the product, how can they distinguish a compelling proposition from a promise the business cannot deliver?
If they don't understand buying behaviour, how can they recognise when AI is pushing a conversation in the wrong direction?
They can't reliably do those things without the underlying knowledge.
They might produce more output.
They might move faster.
They might even sound more polished.
But sounding knowledgeable and being commercially intelligent are two very different things.
Zero multiplied by a thousand is still zero.
And a thousand poorly directed activities don't suddenly become a winning sales strategy because AI made them easier to execute.
The real danger isn't that AI can't produce good work.
It's that it can produce convincing work that an inexperienced operator doesn't know how to evaluate.
AI can reinforce the assumptions you give it.
It can help you articulate an idea without proving that the idea is correct.
It can optimise a message without establishing whether the message addresses what the buyer actually cares about.
And it can help you execute a flawed process at a scale that would previously have been impossible.
That's why I believe the next competitive divide in sales won't simply be between the people who use AI and the people who don't.
It will be between those who use AI to amplify commercial judgement and those who use it as a substitute for developing it.
This is where Closed Circuit Selling™ becomes even more relevant.
Because the answer isn't just to teach salespeople how to write better prompts.
It's to build a commercial system that gives them better information to work with in the first place.
Catalogue the Market™
Understand what buyers actually say about their current providers, their problems, their alternatives and the conditions that would cause them to change.
Not what we assume they think.
Not what a generic AI prompt predicts they might say.
What the market tells us through real conversations.
Timing Intelligence™
Understand when a buyer is ready, what might trigger a change and when the next conversation should happen.
AI can help identify patterns, but the commercial context determines what those patterns mean.
Close the Feedback Loop™
Make sure intelligence from Sales reaches Marketing, Product, Customer Success and Leadership.
The more relevant first-party intelligence the organisation captures, the better equipped its people and AI tools become to make informed decisions.
Architecture Over Frameworks™
Connect the people, processes, information and technology into a system that learns.
Because giving AI access to disconnected data doesn't automatically create a connected business.
And automating a broken process doesn't repair the architecture underneath it.
Here's what I want sales leaders to consider.
Before asking how much more activity AI can generate, ask whether your team understands the market well enough to direct that activity.
Before measuring how many emails AI can produce, ask whether your salespeople can recognise a meaningful buying signal.
Before celebrating the time saved on research, ask whether the research is changing the quality of the conversation.
And before automating the sales process, ask whether you've actually built a process worth automating.
AI is an amplifier. Your commorgan ai in salesmercial architecture determines what you're amplifying.
The organisations that understand their markets, develop their people and preserve intelligence across the business will be better positioned to use AI effectively.
The ones that don't may simply become more efficient at doing the wrong things.
The future isn't human intelligence versus artificial intelligence.
It's human judgement, market intelligence and technology working together inside a system designed to produce better commercial decisions.
That's the principle behind Closed Circuit Selling™.
We don't just want salespeople to produce more.
We want them to understand more.
We don't just want AI to generate answers.
We want the business to ask better questions, interpret the answers and act on what it learns.
Because the objective was never to create the world's most efficient activity machine.
It was to build a commercial system that understands the market well enough to make revenue more predictable.
Closed Circuit Selling™.
Commercial common sense, architected.
Revenue Alignment Architecture™.
LIVE The B2B Playbook Feat Morgan J Ingram @morganjingram & George Coudounaris @georgecouda
Article
theb2bplaybook.com/what-make…
Listen on Spotify
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At 23, I definitely didn't think I'd end up writing what I believe is one of the most comprehensive examinations of sales methodology and commercial architecture I've ever produced.
And I certainly didn't expect Claude to give me feedback like this. Not that I knew what any sales tools were back then, other than pen and paper. And a corded landline phone.
I've spent years in sales.
Across industries, markets, customers, commercial models and leadership roles.
I've watched businesses invest in sales training, introduce new methodologies, buy technology, restructure teams and hire people to improve revenue.
I've seen brilliant salespeople.
I've seen exceptional marketers.
I've seen organisations with outstanding products and talented people still struggle to make revenue predictable.
And over time, one question kept coming back to me.
What if the problem isn't that we haven't taught people how to sell? What if we've never properly connected everything a business needs to do to understand its market and generate revenue?
That question became Closed Circuit Selling™.
But I didn't want to simply declare that CCS was different.
I wanted to examine the alternatives properly.
So I examined every component of the 90+ pages with Claude against SPIN Selling, The Challenger Sale, GAP Selling, MEDDIC, Sandler, Account Based Marketing, the Forrester Demand Waterfall and Winning by Design.
Not to dismiss them.
These methodologies have made significant contributions to how we understand selling, qualification, demand generation and customer retention.
The question I wanted to investigate was different..
If you took the most valuable contributions from all of them, could you assemble the commercial operating architecture I've been building?
My conclusion was that the missing piece wasn't another question framework, qualification checklist or revenue model.
It was the connection between them.
A methodology can help a salesperson conduct a better conversation.
But what happens to the intelligence that conversation produces?
Who receives it?
Does Marketing use it to improve messaging?
Does Product learn what customers repeatedly need but cannot currently get?
Does Customer Success understand why the customer bought and what was promised?
Does Leadership see what the market is telling the business?
Does the next salesperson inherit that knowledge, or start again from zero?
And what happens when the buyer isn't ready to purchase today, but could be the right customer in twelve months?
These aren't separate sales questions.
They're connected commercial questions.
That is the problem Closed Circuit Selling™ is designed to address.
Catalogue the Market™
Timing Intelligence™
Close the Feedback Loop™
Architecture Over Frameworks™
A connected system in which conversations generate intelligence, intelligence informs decisions, decisions change how the organisation operates, and what happens next in the market feeds back into the system.
The objective isn't to replace every methodology that came before it.
It's to connect the valuable work those methodologies do to a broader commercial architecture.
Because I believe we've spent decades getting better at individual parts of selling while leaving too much of the overall system disconnected.
And when the system is disconnected, even talented people lose information, repeat mistakes and leave opportunities for revenue on the table.
At 23, I wasn't thinking about writing an article comparing the architecture of sales methodologies.
TBH the day this photo was taken, I also did a target photo shoot, with Nicky Whelan. And another where we were the face of Holden Special Vehicles, I digress.
I was learning the realities of business.
The conversations.
The customers.
The commercial decisions.
The consequences of getting things wrong.
Those experiences eventually led me to a question I couldn't leave alone.
Why should an organisation have to relearn what its own market has already told it?
That question is at the heart of Closed Circuit Selling™
I'm sharing this because I don't think the future of sales belongs to whoever invents the next clever acronym.
I think it belongs to the people willing to examine the fundamentals, question what we've accepted as normal and build better systems around what businesses actually need to do.
This is my attempt to put that thinking under the microscope.
Not by claiming every other approach is wrong.
By examining what each contributes, what remains disconnected and why the architecture around those contributions matters.
The methodologies came before the architecture. The opportunity now is to close the circuit.
Read: Every Sales Method That Came Before. What None of Them Finished.
And if you've spent years in sales, marketing or revenue leadership, I'd genuinely like to know
Have we been trying to improve the parts of selling for so long that we've overlooked the system connecting them?
— Adem Manderovic
Creator of Closed Circuit Selling™
Co-author, Closed Circuit Selling: Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market
TBF all I’d do is teach them Closed Circuit Selling.
I’d use @_Firmable for data
I’d use @HumanticAI for profiling
And then the pillars of CCS to allow them to segment and bucket the market.
And circle back with what they find.
I was 19, listening to Limp Bizkit, and trying to figure out how to sell. I didn't know what a CRM was. I didn't know what RevOps meant.
But I knew one thing...the old way of selling was broken.
The market has quietly shifted from asking "What is Closed Circuit Selling?" to asking "How fast can we install it?"
Over the last few months, something fundamental changed in how revenue leaders are looking at the pipeline.
The conversation is no longer about methodologies. It’s not about SPIN, MEDDICC, or another AI sequencing tool.
It’s about the math. It’s about architecture.
When George Coudounaris and I started mapping this out, we knew the industry was structurally broken. But we also knew that telling people they were broken wasn't enough. We had to build the operational layer to fix it.
Here is what that shift looks like in the real world right now
When you move from chasing the 95% of the market that isn't ready to cataloguing the timing of the 95%, the math changes. We built the diagnostic to prove it. For a standard mid-market SaaS team, the 36-month projection moves from $516,000 to over $4,000,000. That is not a sales tactic. That is a capital efficiency mandate.
Wait til you hear our show with Jake Rivera (@FidelCacheFlow , breakdown a very similar method and its findings to his community all exceeding quota.
AI made outbound infinite. The market is drowning in it. The winners over the next five years will not be the teams with the biggest SDR floor. They will be the ones operating on Message Scale where reputation, timing, and intelligence align before the first call is ever made. Warm calls are not an accident. They are the result of architecture.
Yesterday I wrote and article from discussions with Sam Shaper from almost three years ago… where he came to the same independent conclusions I did.. This week we also dropped the episode with Morgan J. Ingram who independently arrive at the exact same architectural principles without reading our book, it proves something. It proves this isn't just our framework. It’s the first principles of how revenue actually works when you connect the circuit.
We have moved past the era of the solo consultant. The book is the blueprint. CRO School is the training ground. The Sales Floor is the done for you execution. Just wait to see whats included.
We are no longer talking about the future of revenue.
We are installing it.
Closed Circuit Selling™: Architect Predictable Revenue in an Unpredictable Market.
And who knows I may bring back the Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park tshirts for Fridays…
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Additional Resources
theb2bplaybook.com/ccs-resou…
The B2B Playbook with George Coudounaris and Kevin Chen
open.spotify.com/show/4l9OCD…
Closed Circuit Selling The Podcast, with Adem Manderovic & George Coudounaris
open.spotify.com/show/2UNSgL…
Get the book!
Australia
amazon.com.au/Closed-Circuit…
United States
amazon.com/Closed-Circuit-Se…
United Kingdom
amazon.co.uk/Closed-Circuit-…
Additional Resources
theb2bplaybook.com/ccs-resou…
The B2B Playbook with George Coudounaris and Kevin Chen
open.spotify.com/show/4l9OCD…
Closed Circuit Selling The Podcast, with Adem Manderovic & George Coudounaris
open.spotify.com/show/2UNSgL…
Get the book!
Australia
amazon.com.au/Closed-Circuit…
United States
amazon.com/Closed-Circuit-Se…
United Kingdom
amazon.co.uk/Closed-Circuit-…
Additional Resources
theb2bplaybook.com/ccs-resou…
The B2B Playbook with George Coudounaris and Kevin Chen
open.spotify.com/show/4l9OCD…
Closed Circuit Selling The Podcast, with Adem Manderovic & George Coudounaris
open.spotify.com/show/2UNSgL…












