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💊 • Wx Forecaster since ‘08 ❄️ • NCSU Alum 🐺 #GoPack • Diver 🤿

Raleigh, NC
Joined June 2009
More: Digging into time periods and SSW events producing more frequent snow events: Red: more snow events 1958-1999 Blue: more snow events 2000-2025
Every winter, SSW gets sold as a possible snow trigger. I checked all 41 since 1958 against 12,430 stations. First 6 weeks vs. matched winters without one: some regions got more snow days, others fewer. The overall average: +0.52%. 🧵
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I did break it down by ENSO further and neutral caught my eye, beating both…and neutral has a pretty even split between the two eras as well. It could allude to a possibility that extremes in both ENSO states can overwhelm any notable SSWE benefit.
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Here’s some era comparisons, close to an even split of SSWEs before and after 1999. A decent drop in snow day frequency change as a whole, but some areas like the apps have done well.
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We arrive at the same answer when the model only learns from earlier winters. That doesn't prove SSW has no influence, but it isn't a reliable snow signal on its own.
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Early-winter SSWs look snowier (+1.40% vs +0.37%), but mostly a consequence of low sample size (only 6 “early” SSW events)
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The real test: does knowing an SSW happened help predict snow days? Not here. Error was 2.29 without it and 2.34 with it.
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Event by event, it's a coin flip: 21 SSWs had more snow days, 20 had fewer.
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Every winter, SSW gets sold as a possible snow trigger. I checked all 41 since 1958 against 12,430 stations. First 6 weeks vs. matched winters without one: some regions got more snow days, others fewer. The overall average: +0.52%. 🧵
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Tell him it’s time for the PFP change…
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“Can't imagine why anyone would even look at the GFS on a daily basis”
Gonna be honest...not even sure there's much reason to keep it All we really need going forward is excellent high-res initialization data for AI modeling, at least for global-scale models Can't imagine why anyone would even look at the GFS on a daily basis
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Replying to @webberweather
1997-98 DJF has the highest correlation of all analogs, by far
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